Ok, no more coffee for me. Testosterone levels
exceeding safety margins. R-cortex reacting in
reptilian survival mode.

I apologize for my overreacting to Dustin's
misunderstanding of my disconflabulation of written
English.

What I think about all this:
1. Have a knowledgeble speaker on hand to present what
the SSSCA bill is about.
2. Invite the CCCC to participate in the ensuing
discussion of the SSSCA.
3. Everybody fights it out in the ThunderDome. Last
human standing wins. First round: me and Dustin's mom.

John Hebert


--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 22:44, John Hebert wrote:
> > And my reply was to Jerald. I think YOU
> misunderstood
> > my question to Jerald. I was NOT asking for the
> CCCC
> > member's agreement, I was asking Jerald to
> consider
> > the fact that not all CCCC members may consider
> the
> > SSSCA a bad thing, because they may not understand
> the
> > loss of freedoms involved.
> 
> Then wouldn't that make them prime candidates for
> this meeting? That was
> my point.
> 
> > Before you call me out in a public forum, I'd
> > appreciate it if you would read and understand my
> > message. I did say:
> 
> Jesus.. I was just saying dude. Please don't beat me
> up!
> 
> Regards, Dustin
> 
> PS Don't think I won't get my mom to kick your ass.
> 
> > 
> > "Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how
> > about we all discuss this in depth, so as to
> become
> > familar with the issue? "
> > 
> > Keyword being _discuss_.
> > 
> > John Hebert
> > 
> > --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 17:13, Jerald Sheets
> wrote:
> > > > My whole point is that the congresspersons
> would
> > > be considerably more
> > > > likely to listen to the group as a whole given
> the
> > > demographic &
> > > > community pull.  It had nothing at all to do
> with
> > > "agreeing" with each
> > > > other.  I was responding directly to Shannon's
> > > statement.
> > > 
> > > Uh, Jerald, my reply was to John. Note his email
> > > below. Slow down sonny.
> > > 
> > > Regards, Dustin
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --JMS
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 14:55, Dustin Puryear
> wrote:
> > > > > Ok, I obviously misunderstood what you
> wanted to
> > > do. I thought you
> > > > > wanted to discuss the SSSCA and DMCA, not
> just
> > > agree with one another
> > > > > that the legislation is bad. If that isn't
> the
> > > case then it shouldn't
> > > > > matter what the opinion of the Clickers will
> be.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards, Dustin
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 15:37, John Hebert
> wrote:
> > > > > > But would all the Clickers agree?
> Copyright
> > > and IP are
> > > > > > very fuzzy issues that are widely
> > > misunderstood. It is
> > > > > > easy for the RIAA and the MPAA to build a
> case
> > > against
> > > > > > piracy, as it can be shown to impact their
> > > industries.
> > > > > > However, the other side of the coin is
> that
> > > open
> > > > > > source software would be made illegal, or
> at
> > > least
> > > > > > those parts that would implement DRM.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Before we ask the CCCC to get involved,
> how
> > > about we
> > > > > > all discuss this in depth, so as to become
> > > familar
> > > > > > with the issue? Let's prepare ourselves
> before
> > > we try
> > > > > > to make a big noise with our
> representatives.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Again, I'd really like to have someone
> > > knowledgeble
> > > > > > speak about IP and copyright law. Does
> anybody
> > > know
> > > > > > someone like this?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- Jerald Sheets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Well maybe not us by ourselves, but
> perhaps
> > > we
> > > > > > > joined with our friends
> > > > > > > at the Clickers to request their
> presence...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 20 vs 2000....I know I'd listen.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --JMS
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 13:03, Shannon
> Roddy
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Too bad Breaux or Landrou (sp?)
> probably
> > > would not
> > > > > > > take the time to come
> > > > > > > > and talk to us.  Wee could grill them
> and
> > > see what
> > > > > > > they think or if they
> > > > > > > > even have enough knowledge to be
> voting on
> > > the
> > > > > > > damn thing.  I think what
> > > > > > > > happens most of the time is that the
> > > people making
> > > > > > > the laws do not know
> > > > > > > > enough about the subject, so the
> lobbyists
> > > win
> > > > > > > (like the RIAA,
> > > > > > > > Hollywood, etc.).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Shannon
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 12:52, Randy le
> > > Jeune wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I think it would be a good topic as
> it
> > > concerns
> > > > > > > all of us. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Randy
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001
> 12:43
> > > PM
> > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [brluglist] possible topic
> for
> > > November
> > > > > > > meeting: SSSCA?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'd like to suggest that we discuss
> the
> > > SSSCA
> > > > > > > bill.
> > > > > > > > > You can find out more about it at
> the
> > > following:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> http://www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/article2.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > and many other places on the web via
> > > Google,
> 
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