On Thu, 2001-10-11 at 10:30, Shannon Roddy wrote: > On Thu, 2001-10-11 at 10:22, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > On Thu, 2001-10-11 at 09:51, john beamon wrote: > > > 'sigh' There's a reason the private addresses of the senders are still > > > displayed on lists like these. > > > > Yeah, but that's not as much fun. > > Yeah - I can't feel like I am at the school playground again shouting > "Fight!!!! Fight!!!! Fight!!!! Fight!!!!" :-)
Now see, I don't get this. I was just making a point. I wasn't trying to be confrontational. Maybe I need to use more smileys in the future. :) Oh yes, this is much better. ;) Don't you think? :> Regards, Dustin "the happy smiley guy" Puryear PS =-) > > Shannon > > > > > I'd be just as happy if this meeting was open to the general public, let > > > alone the Clickers. I think that would actually be a good thing, even if > > > we let BRLUG people moderate this as some sort of round-table discussion > > > in front of whoever wants to attend. I think unrestricted public Q&A > > > could be a debacle we're not ready to deal with, but I think public > > > attendance would be good. "The Clickers" may or may not even be relevant > > > in that situation, but it would at least be good to have them. > > > > I agree. We just need to confirm someone will attend that is fluent in > > the law. And no, intricate knowledge of the penal system doesn't count. > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > -- > > > -j > > > > > > On 11 Oct 2001, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > > > Date: 11 Oct 2001 10:06:25 -0500 > > > > From: Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: BRLUGLIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: RE: [brluglist] possible topic for November meeting: SSSCA? > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 22:44, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > And my reply was to Jerald. I think YOU misunderstood > > > > > my question to Jerald. I was NOT asking for the CCCC > > > > > member's agreement, I was asking Jerald to consider > > > > > the fact that not all CCCC members may consider the > > > > > SSSCA a bad thing, because they may not understand the > > > > > loss of freedoms involved. > > > > > > > > Then wouldn't that make them prime candidates for this meeting? That was > > > > my point. > > > > > > > > > Before you call me out in a public forum, I'd > > > > > appreciate it if you would read and understand my > > > > > message. I did say: > > > > > > > > Jesus.. I was just saying dude. Please don't beat me up! > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > PS Don't think I won't get my mom to kick your ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how > > > > > about we all discuss this in depth, so as to become > > > > > familar with the issue? " > > > > > > > > > > Keyword being _discuss_. > > > > > > > > > > John Hebert > > > > > > > > > > --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 17:13, Jerald Sheets wrote: > > > > > > > My whole point is that the congresspersons would > > > > > > be considerably more > > > > > > > likely to listen to the group as a whole given the > > > > > > demographic & > > > > > > > community pull. It had nothing at all to do with > > > > > > "agreeing" with each > > > > > > > other. I was responding directly to Shannon's > > > > > > statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh, Jerald, my reply was to John. Note his email > > > > > > below. Slow down sonny. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --JMS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 14:55, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok, I obviously misunderstood what you wanted to > > > > > > do. I thought you > > > > > > > > wanted to discuss the SSSCA and DMCA, not just > > > > > > agree with one another > > > > > > > > that the legislation is bad. If that isn't the > > > > > > case then it shouldn't > > > > > > > > matter what the opinion of the Clickers will be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 15:37, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > > > > > But would all the Clickers agree? Copyright > > > > > > and IP are > > > > > > > > > very fuzzy issues that are widely > > > > > > misunderstood. It is > > > > > > > > > easy for the RIAA and the MPAA to build a case > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > piracy, as it can be shown to impact their > > > > > > industries. > > > > > > > > > However, the other side of the coin is that > > > > > > open > > > > > > > > > source software would be made illegal, or at > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > > those parts that would implement DRM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how > > > > > > about we > > > > > > > > > all discuss this in depth, so as to become > > > > > > familar > > > > > > > > > with the issue? Let's prepare ourselves before > > > > > > we try > > > > > > > > > to make a big noise with our representatives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I'd really like to have someone > > > > > > knowledgeble > > > > > > > > > speak about IP and copyright law. Does anybody > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > someone like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Jerald Sheets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well maybe not us by ourselves, but perhaps > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > joined with our friends > > > > > > > > > > at the Clickers to request their presence... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 vs 2000....I know I'd listen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --JMS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 13:03, Shannon Roddy > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Too bad Breaux or Landrou (sp?) probably > > > > > > would not > > > > > > > > > > take the time to come > > > > > > > > > > > and talk to us. Wee could grill them and > > > > > > see what > > > > > > > > > > they think or if they > > > > > > > > > > > even have enough knowledge to be voting on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > damn thing. I think what > > > > > > > > > > > happens most of the time is that the > > > > > > people making > > > > > > > > > > the laws do not know > > > > > > > > > > > enough about the subject, so the lobbyists > > > > > > win > > > > > > > > > > (like the RIAA, > > > > > > > > > > > Hollywood, etc.). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 12:52, Randy le > > > > > > Jeune wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be a good topic as it > > > > > > concerns > > > > > > > > > > all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:43 > > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [brluglist] possible topic for > > > > > > November > > > > > > > > > > meeting: SSSCA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to suggest that we discuss the > > > > > > SSSCA > > > > > > > > > > bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find out more about it at the > > > > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/article2.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and many other places on the web via > > > > > > Google, > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted to ask if any BRLUG > > > > > > members knew a > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyer or possibly an LSU faculty member > > > > > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > > > > > > the SSSCA bill and would be willing to > > > > > > speak > > > > > > > > > > about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Hebert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! > > > > > > Personals. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > Shannon Roddy California > > > > > > > > > > Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO > > > > > > Livingston > > > > > > > > > > Observatory > > > > > > > > > > > ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO > > > > > > Lane > > > > > > > > > > > fx: (225)686-7189 > > > > > > Livingston, LA > > > > > > > > > > 70754 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > > > > > > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > your subscription information. > > > ================================================ > > > > > -- > > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear > > In the beginning the Universe was created. > > This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams > > > > > > ================================================ > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > your subscription information. > > ================================================ > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > Shannon Roddy California Institute of Technology > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory > ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane > fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754 > > ================================================ > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > your subscription information. > ================================================ > -- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear In the beginning the Universe was created. 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