Wow, another volunteer! I shoulda started moaning and bitching months ago. :)
Thanks, Douglas. I'm waiting to hear back from Ricky about the newbie meeting location. Does Sue Smith read this mailing list? John Hebert > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Clickers wants to start a Linux SIG was RE: > [brluglist] Re: > m eeti ng locations? > > > I am in no way a linux expert. But, I'm willing to use my > experiences > to help newbies out. I'm more of an intermediate user I guess. I've > basically discovered how to get my system to do everything I > want it to > do. I'm pretty sure that it's not the most efficient ways I > find, but I > got it working nonetheless. I love the idea behind Linux and I'm > constantly talking to people about it. I've used my dad as an > experiment as a matter of fact. I'm gonna go out on a limb > and say that > Linux is as easy to learn as Windows. It's just hard to make > that leap > from windows if you're already programmed that way. My dad has never > used a computer in his life. In a couple of hours, I taught > him how to > log on, ,access his own e-mail, and surf the web. He had no > problems, > that is, after I switched my mouse around because he's left handed. > > So, if I can help in any way, let me know, I'd be more than happy to. > I've only been to the one meeting at Brewbacher's, so I > don't know how > newbie hour works or anything, but I'm more than willing to show up > early and help people out, if possible. > > Cordially, > Douglas Adams > > John Hebert wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Dustin Puryear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:50 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: RE: Clickers wants to start a Linux SIG was RE: > >>[brluglist] Re: > >>m eeti ng locations? > >> > >> > >>At 12:12 PM 1/17/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >> > >>>>I don't see any harm either way to be honest. However, I > >>>>personally feel that if we have a newbie issue then we > >>>> > >>should address the > >> > >>>>problem via the newbie hour > >>>> > >>>How? Why? Is Linux going to be used up if there are two > >>> > >>groups in Baton > >> > >>>Rouge that are interested in Linux? Are you volunteering to > >>> > >>offer more, > >> > >>>Dustin? > >>> > >>The Clickers had a Linux SIG before. When I last appeared on > >>the Clickers > >>radio program I spoke with one of the members. I was > >>specifically told that > >>their Linux SIG had primarily folded because most of the > >>members had joined > >>BRLUG and because of lack of participation. > >> > > > >Hmmm, I seem to be having the same problem with people to > help me out at the > >BRLUG Newbie Hour. > > > >>Rather than create another Linux SIG at the Clickers why > don't we just > >> > >regularly invite > > > >>them over the LUG? > >> > > > >Because I am doing the BRLUG Newbie Hour by myself here. > Where's the Linux > >"spirit" for advocacy? I started the BRLUG Newbie Hour as an > informal kinda > >thing where newbies can ask questions, but they want more. Clickers > >apparently wants to try the Linux SIG idea again and they > are asking BRLUG > >members if they would like to help get it started. I never > intended to > >organize anything more formal or more polished in BRLUG, so > I'm happy that > >Clickers wants to handle that kind of thing. All I have to > do is run a Linux > >petting zoo at SIG meetings. > > > >>If the presentations are over their collective heads > >>then we can just > >>increase the time allotted to newbies. Hey, if you want to > >>help create a > >>new SIG then go for it. My point is just that I don't think > >>it is the best > >>solution to the newbie problem. > >> > > > >By "we", you mean me. I don't think your suggested solution will work > >either, unless you are volunteering to help. I don't feel > there has been > >much interest in providing help for newbies, other than help over the > >mailing list, which has been good, though there are obvious > limitations as > >opposed to face to face meetings. > > > >>Now, if you are doing this strictly because the Clickers want > >>a Linux SIG > >>then that is another situation. However, to date you have > >>been stressing > >>that we aren't properly handling newbie issues, which is a > >>LUG concern if > >>they are LUG newbies. That is what I am replying to. > >> > > > >Again, the "we" reference. > > > >>Again, this has been done before at the Clickers. I am not > >>saying this > >>attempt will fail, I'm just saying that with numbers comes strength. > >> > > > >Apparently it has failed already with the BRLUG, as Clickers > members are > >again asking the Clickers officers to start a Linux SIG. My > point is that > >there is no interest in BRLUG other than my own to help > newbies. At least > >that I know of. > > > >>>Um, what? You said earlier: "I don't see any harm either way > >>> > >>to be honest." > >> > >>My statements are not contradictory. > >> > >>>Do you mean no harm to BRLUG? I really want to know what > you mean by > >>>"spreading the Linux user base a bit thin". > >>> > >>I think you are taking this conversation personally. > >> > > > >Bunk. Though you've correctly pointed out in the past where > I was taking the > >discussion personally, this ain't the situation. You still > haven't answered > >my question. What do you mean when you say "spreading the > Linux user base a > >bit thin"? How is this possible? Exactly what is the density > of the "Linux > >user base"? > > > >>I've said a few times that if you want to do it then fine. I'm just > >> > >putting in my two cents. > > > >And all I was asking for was some feedback, which I got. > > > >Dustin, I'm not trying to start an argument here. The > situation is very > >simple: > > > >Sue Smith would like to start (or try again to start) a Linux SIG. > >You and Tim say that is redundant effort (whose effort?). > >I say that I'm the only one volunteering my time to help > newbies in person > >at the BRLUG Newbie Hour and I don't have the time to > organize it better. > > > >What do you recommend then? > > > >John Hebert > >================================================ > >BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > >Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > >Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > >your subscription information. > >================================================ > > > > > > ================================================ > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > your subscription information. > ================================================ > ================================================ BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. 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