Better to be thrown away once they are infected with that _virus_ more commonly known as windows.
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 19:37, John Hebert wrote: > Zackly. You may also want to remove the hard disk > platters and scrub em down with alcohol too. > > :) > > John Hebert > > --- Edmund Cramp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note that with Windows "Fresh" means "Start with > > FDISK" otherwise the > > new installation will pick up the old registry > > settings and quite > > possibly repeat the same problems. > > > > -- > > Edmund Cramp > > http://www.emgsrus.com/graffiti.htm > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of John Hebert > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:26 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [brluglist] windows sucks > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a combination of problems. But, when > > it > > > comes to tracking down problems, I _always_ > > suspect > > > software, not hardware, first. Software is just > > easier > > > to screw up, especially on a closed source > > operating > > > system. Now, it may be that the hardware in the > > > problem machine needs an updated driver. Or it > > maybe > > > some software that was installed screwed up > > earlier > > > installed software, etc. > > > > > > Have you tried a fresh install of M$ Windows and > > > testing that extensively? If that does not cause > > > BSODs, then I suspect a bad sw config in some > > later > > > installed sw. > > > > > > We need more info to make a better diagnosis. > > > > > > John Hebert > > > --- Boyd Davezac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok, then I stand corrected. Intel chips > > sometimes > > > > faulty, AMD sometimes > > > > excellent. But what could it be then? A > > probability > > > > that some chips are > > > > faulty? Or the combination of hardware in the > > > > machine? Or both? > > > > > > > > Boyd > > > > > > > > > > > > >AMD K6-2 500 on my desktop, AMD K-something 233 > > on > > > > my laptop. Both dual > > > > >boot Red Hat 7.2 and Windows 98. Virtually > > never > > > > crash. I've had the > > > > >same Windows install on the desktop for nearly > > two > > > > years, and I game and > > > > >trade out vid cards and all kinds of stuff. > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >-j > > > > > > > > > >John Beamon > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Boyd Davezac wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:30:41 -0500 > > > > > > From: Boyd Davezac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [brluglist] windows sucks > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if this makes a difference, but I > > have > > > > never had an Intel chip > > > > > > always AMD and one Cyrix (when their chips > > were > > > > good). But I have been > > > > > > complaining about Windows crashing on my > > machine > > > > to everyone and it has > > > > >come > > > > > > to my attention that a lot of people don't > > have > > > > these problems. Those > > > > >people > > > > > > that don't always have an intel chip. Just > > > > yesterday I watched a friend > > > > >of > > > > > > mine's Win98 crash horribly about 5 times in > > an > > > > hour. He is the self > > > > > > proclaimed Blue Screen King. However, he, > > like > > > > me has an AMD chip. So I > > > > >am > > > > > > wondering if I can take a pole to see if > > people > > > > whose machines often > > > > >crash > > > > > > have an AMD chip? > > > > > > > > > > > > Boyd > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. I found that ocasionally Linux locks up > > on > > > > my machine when playing > > > > > > Unreal Tournament. But I think this is due > > to > > > > poor ventilation on my > > > > >chip > > > > > > which is a whole other argument about > > > > heatsink/fan engineers that design > > > > > > their fan to sit right where the motherboard > > > > power supply goes. AARRRGH! > > > > > > DON'T BUY COMPUSA HEATSINKS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Shannon Roddy > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 16:42, Grant Belgard > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Today we had a slide show presentation > > at > > > > Baton Rouge > > > > > > > > High with pictures of students > > throughout > > > > the year. > > > > > > > > The laptop was running Powerpoint > > (obviously > > > > on > > > > > > > > Windows) and it crashed halfway through. > > It > > > > took so > > > > > > > > long to reboot that we didn't have > > enough > > > > time to see > > > > > > > > any more. The mob of about 1,200 was > > ready > > > > to have > > > > > > > > Bill Gates' head. I have a feeling that > > the > > > > "Windows" > > > > > > > > bar on that chart is going to jump over > > a > > > > few more > > > > > > > > places to the right this evening... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grant > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My windows experience for the day has been > > > > installing win 2000 server > > > > >on > > > > > > >a fresh, clean machine and going to the > > windows > > > > update, installing the > > > > > > >service pack & critical updates, then > > rebooting > > > > the machine. It would > > > > > > >not boot after that! It hangs at some > > point - > > > > and no matter how long I > > > > > > >let it sit there, it will not finish > > booting! > > > > The *&$*#&$^&@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ > > > > > > >machine is two hours old - and winblows has > > > > already died!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > > > > http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > information. > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >================================================ > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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