what?  i think x11 guis kick the pants off of explorer... have any of
you used kde3??? you might notice that i used to rave about blackbox (on
a minimal computer of course) but if you have any sort of mhz, try
kde3... its a wonderful desktop. i havent had any problems with it..
using it at work.  i cringe when i have to use explorer... there is
soooo little real estate (multiple desktops).  but then, maybe im weird

--mat

On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 12:32, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> At 11:50 AM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >I think I saw an article the other day that stated something to the
> >effect of "if someone writes software that links against any GPLd shared
> >objects, then that software must be GPLd also."  Any one more
> >knowledgeable than me on the GPL that can answer this?  Would this mean
> >that M$ would have to build a GUI without using any existing compiled
> >shared objects in the Linux system?  If so, isn't this a tough task?
> 
> I believe that is incorrect since there are a lot of commercial products 
> available for Linux that work in the same fashion. In fact, wasn't there a 
> big debate about this at some time? I think you need to GPL your software 
> if it could not function without another GPL'd component. So, since libc 
> and related libraries are basically compatible across flavors, then you 
> don't need to GPL the software. Now, if Microsoft built their GUI around 
> XFree86 then they have a substantial reliance on GPL software, so their 
> software would be GPL'd.
> 
> Of course, I could be totally wrong here, but I think have the basics right.
> 
> Regards, Dustin
> 
> 
> 
> >Shannon
> >
> >On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 11:21, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > > That is an interesting article. In general however I do not share Joe's
> > > concern. In my mind competition is good, even if the competition is from
> > > Microsoft. Certainly, Microsoft has shown a knack for dominating most
> > > markets that it enters. But, in my mind, any competition in the 
> > Linux-space
> > > is a good idea and will only help the technology grow and mature. Now, if
> > > and when Microsoft enters the Linux market with a GUI to replace the X
> > > Window System and then tries to dominate the market through illegal or
> > > unethical means, then there is a problem. But until that time, the more
> > > competition the better. And on the flip side, it is entirely possible that
> > > once Microsoft works with Linux and open source technology to build a
> > > product that they will see the light.
> > >
> > > Regards, Dustin
> > >
> > > At 06:49 AM 7/31/2002 -0700, John Hebert wrote:
> > > >Interesting article, with a twist of paranoia.
> > > >
> > > >http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=718992
> > > >
> > > >"...
> > > >  But unlike Apple, I am not talking about Microsoft
> > > >using the Linux kernel for Windows. I am talking about
> > > >Microsoft making a drop-in GUI replacement for X
> > > >Window System. A proprietary GUI. A closed GUI. A GUI
> > > >with clout. An extend and embrace GUI. Get the
> > > >picture?
> > > >..."
> > > >
> > > >John Hebert
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