i agree with you on that one... i do believe that microsoft has brought on many technological advances, and without it, linux probably wouldnt be as it is now.... its like the yin and the yang, you need the evil to have the good... competition is good, but it wont happen with out the 3000 pound gorilla stomping around on our "sacred" grounds.... or something like that
--mat On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 14:54, Dustin Puryear wrote: > At 12:43 PM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >what? i think x11 guis kick the pants off of explorer... have any of > >you used kde3??? you might notice that i used to rave about blackbox (on > >a minimal computer of course) but if you have any sort of mhz, try > >kde3... its a wonderful desktop. i havent had any problems with it.. > >using it at work. i cringe when i have to use explorer... there is > >soooo little real estate (multiple desktops). but then, maybe im weird > > Yes, many people like X11, but then again, many others don't. But to be > honest that isn't really the issue. The real issue is whether it would be > good or bad for Linux and open source if Microsoft marketed a GUI and the > associated tie-ins for Linux systems. Would you like it if Apple marketed a > GUI for Linux? I would. It's all about competition. > > Regards, Dustin > > > > >--mat > > > >On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 12:32, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > At 11:50 AM 7/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I think I saw an article the other day that stated something to the > > > >effect of "if someone writes software that links against any GPLd shared > > > >objects, then that software must be GPLd also." Any one more > > > >knowledgeable than me on the GPL that can answer this? Would this mean > > > >that M$ would have to build a GUI without using any existing compiled > > > >shared objects in the Linux system? If so, isn't this a tough task? > > > > > > I believe that is incorrect since there are a lot of commercial products > > > available for Linux that work in the same fashion. In fact, wasn't there a > > > big debate about this at some time? I think you need to GPL your software > > > if it could not function without another GPL'd component. So, since libc > > > and related libraries are basically compatible across flavors, then you > > > don't need to GPL the software. Now, if Microsoft built their GUI around > > > XFree86 then they have a substantial reliance on GPL software, so their > > > software would be GPL'd. > > > > > > Of course, I could be totally wrong here, but I think have the basics > > right. > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > > >Shannon > > > > > > > >On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 11:21, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > That is an interesting article. In general however I do not share > > > > > Joe's > > > > > concern. In my mind competition is good, even if the competition is > > from > > > > > Microsoft. Certainly, Microsoft has shown a knack for dominating most > > > > > markets that it enters. But, in my mind, any competition in the > > > > Linux-space > > > > > is a good idea and will only help the technology grow and mature. > > Now, if > > > > > and when Microsoft enters the Linux market with a GUI to replace the X > > > > > Window System and then tries to dominate the market through illegal or > > > > > unethical means, then there is a problem. But until that time, the > > > > > more > > > > > competition the better. And on the flip side, it is entirely > > possible that > > > > > once Microsoft works with Linux and open source technology to build a > > > > > product that they will see the light. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > At 06:49 AM 7/31/2002 -0700, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > >Interesting article, with a twist of paranoia. > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=718992 > > > > > > > > > > > >"... > > > > > > But unlike Apple, I am not talking about Microsoft > > > > > >using the Linux kernel for Windows. I am talking about > > > > > >Microsoft making a drop-in GUI replacement for X > > > > > >Window System. A proprietary GUI. A closed GUI. A GUI > > > > > >with clout. An extend and embrace GUI. Get the > > > > > >picture? > > > > > >..." > > > > > > > > > > > >John Hebert > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > >Yahoo! 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