I dont care how long it ran, i would have watched it, religiously.  But
i understand all the stuff they left out, even though i am a bit
disappointed.  what did kinda make me mad is that they didnt add it in
the special edition with a bunch of deleted scenes.  the thing that
really got to me was the conspiracy, they didnt have to cut that out :(
but oh well.  I dont think the two towers was put together as well as
the fellowship of the ring, but i might be alone, as i see many reviews
saying the opposite.  at least it hasnt gone the way of starwars

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On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:53, Doug Riddle wrote:
> I have enjoyed seeing when, where, and how they diverged from the book
> as much trying to figure out why.  In general they made Middle Earth
> much smaller. This keeps the time spent traveling to a minimum.  I
> would rather they left Bombadil in, but the whole Old Forrest, Barrow
> Downs, Goldberry thing would almost have been another movie. 
> Substituting Arwen for Glorfindel at the fords of Rivendell was OK
> because he had actually been killed in the first battle for the ring,
> but J.R.R. had forgotten that.  Changing the Entmoot bother me at
> first, but I am not sure how else they could have shortened that
> section, and what they cut did not detract from the story as a whole,
> it just left the Ents more mysterious.  I was mostly pleased with
> Helm?s deep, but I bet they will get letters about the Dwarf tossing. 
> At first I thought that they should have left Faramir as depicted in
> the book, and not forced him to go to Minas Ithil.  Then I thought
> about it, and noted the speech Samwise made to Frodo.  That was from
> the Orc Tower in the Return of the King.  They are going to
> foreshorten all of the Minas Morgal scenes and probably the capture of
> Frodo.  I am very interested in what happens with Shelob, but I am
> guessing they pretty much escape her.  The part about them forcing her
> off and then her attacking again from above lends nothing to the story
> except suspense.  So when the movie ended without Frodo being bitten
> by Shelob, there was no place for Frodo and Sam to have that I can?t
> go on Sam, but we have to Mr. Frodo speech at the start of the next
> movie.  They eliminated all of that section, so they forced Frodo to
> stay captured and had the speech, then sent him on again.  Very
> crafty.  So far I have been very impressed with their efforts.  Even
> when they screw up, it is minor, or for a reason you can fathom. 
> 
>  John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>         Didja catch the inside joke that Sam Gamgee said when they
>         were in that 
>         place? Very clever of the writers!
>         
>         John Hebert
>         
>         Brad Bendily wrote:
>         > I was extremely impressed with the Battle of Helm's Deep. I
>         thought
>         > the beginning of the movie was rather slow. To many cut
>         scenes of mountains and 
>         > other things that had nothing to do with the story. 
>         > Now, without spoiling anything for anyone, there was a twist
>         that was added 
>         > that varied from the book in regards to Frodo that I was not
>         happy about.
>         > Why change the damn story, if the story was bad then don't
>         make a 
>         > movie about it. What I'm referring to is a place where Frodo
>         was forced
>         > to visit. That's not the way the book went, we'll see with
>         the 3rd movie what
>         > other creative changes were made. 
>         > Hopefully nothing as drastic.
>         > 
>         > Overall, yes an excellent movie of which I think Tolkien
>         himself would 
>         > appreciate.
>         > 
>         > 
>         
>         
>         -- 
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