At 12:28 PM 6/15/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>On 2003.06.14 17:05 Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > is going to be a compromise between how easily anyone on the Internet can
> > send mail, and the wish of my networks to reduce the amount of their
> > incoming spam.
> >
>
>Email good, spam bad.  Prohibit bad behavior, allow good.  Get it?  Knives 
>good, murder bad.  There are better ways to reduce murder than to outlaw 
>pointy metal things.  When I complain about spam and other malicious net 
>behavior, I'm not recommending everyone be forced into AOL/M$N like 
>service restrictions.  Concentrating email into a few "servers" on big 
>ISPs will make spamming easier for real spammers.  Installing software 
>that's harder to pirate and use for spam and other DoS will make

I am having difficulty understanding a lot of your logic. How will 
restricting a consumer account to only being able to relay mail through an 
ISP mail server make spamming easier for real spammers?

>Why should they go through pains to limit my service?  It easier for 
>everyone with an internet set up like at home had.  DHCP, mail relays and 
>all this are lots of trouble for no good purpose.  DHCP was supposed to 
>fix all these problems, right?  I don't like having to jury rig my machine 
>to act like some brain dead M$ client box!  Not only does Cox have to do 
>more work for me, I have to put up with their stupid file size 
>restrictions and other problems.  Moves like pain my ass and reduce the 
>advantages free software has over proprietary crap.  If that kind of thing 
>is good enough for you, great.  It's not good enough for me, but I know 
>why now.

How does using DHCP and a mail relay force you to setup your system like a 
"dead M$ client" system?

>because you might have those same rights offered to you as privileges?  We 
>should have more respect for the people around us.  They are not spammers, 
>and other criminals.  The CCCC mail server can answer many of our needs, 
>but for how long?  The reason this happened and where it's going is 
>clear.  If we don't do anything about it, we will all end up in AOL/M$N 
>hell.  Anyone working on wireless mesh nets?

At least you aren't overreacting.. :)


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Puryear Information Technology
Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting
http://www.puryear-it.com


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