They also block port 21 even though they don't admit it.
The link worked BTW.

-- 
Brad Bendily - CNA


On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Adam J. Melancon wrote:

> Has anyone seen this link with all the ports that cox blocks?
> 
> http://www.expressresponse.com/cgi-bin/progsnp/cox_isp/srchjnnp?search_type=vdocument&search_input=1570&session_id=1038942585.8133.7&search_erproduct=&question=ports+blocked
> 
> I hope this link works. ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Adam J. Melancon
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: will hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: GPG does not provide "end to end encryption", but only mail 
> conte nt encryption was RE: [brlug-general] Cox and smtp pain today.
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:31:05 -0500
> 
> On 2003.06.17 09:48 John Hebert wrote:
>  > Ray,
>  >
>  > Just to be technically clear and correct for those who may not know, GPG
>  > does not provide end to end mail encryption, but only mail content
>  > encryption. Even if you use GPG to encrypt the contents of your mail
>  > message, it is possible for people (mail sysadmins, bad guys sniffing, 
> etc.)
>  > to see the message headers (mail recipient's address, etc.).
> 
> That and it stands out like a sore thumb when you only take the trouble to 
> encrypt 1% of your mail.
> 
>  >
>  > But, as others have pointed out, TLS only encrypts the connections to the
>  > mail server. Anyone with access to your mail spool can read your 
> unencrypted
>  > email content. TLS is only a partial security solution and requires the 
> user
>  > to trust the mail server admin.
> 
> Let's see, the only person with access to the mail spooler on my computer is 
> ... me.  If everyone ran their own mail and had TLS, everyone would have end 
> to end encryption.  Sure, admins here and there could see who I emailed, but 
> that' not as important as them not getting at what I'm up to when I don't 
> want them to know.
> 
> Some people don't think that's possible or practical.  They are correct only 
> when they confine themselves to Microsoft and dial up limits.  Cable now 
> reaches the majority of US homes.  There's no reason everyone could not have 
> an always on connection with a fixed IP address.  Free software is secure 
> and has default settings that make mail work without much effort on the 
> user's part.  Oh yeah, a computer running free software is just as or more 
> reliable than the dinky little computer that runs the cable modem itself.  
> The only trouble with mail I've had has been from Cox being bullied into 
> making their cable service look and act like a dial up service.
> 
> 
>  >
>  > So if you want true message security, don't use email at all. Anyone know 
> of
>  > a good alternative? Are there any free|OSS encrypted IM apps out there?
>  >
> 
> That is the big problem here.  If you can't trust that your email is 
> private, email loses much of it's value.
> 
> I like the idea of substituting an IM program for an email program =;)  It 
> kinda shows how email could be done.  Why is it that people think that it's 
> OK to have these IM programs but not email?  Why is it that people think you 
> can secure IM but not email?  Why do people think that you need a relay for 
> mail but not IM?
> 
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