Since everybody else is throwing their money in here's my sense (play on 
words if you didn't guess). 

  Knowledge has NOTHING to do with a piece of paper (degree). Many of our most 
respected intellectuals and scientists in history didn't always have a degree. 
What they ALL did have in common was an inquisitive mind and a certain drive to 
understand that which they were interested in. That is the key to acquiring a 
degree also but it is not limited to those that seek a degree. 

  Businesses and organizations that require minimum higher education standards 
are depriving theirseves of a rich resource of talent. In fact I would look 
more closely at a self-taught person than one holding a degree in his/her hand 
and actually do this in my own business. Which do you really think had more 
stick with-it-ness to get where they are? 

  I think that it is easier for those of us with a degree to justify our choice 
to acquire one by comparing others by that choice. This is latently wrong. As I 
read this thread I noticed several of you mention some with degrees that were 
"dumb as bricks". If this is not prove enough of what I am saying I don't know 
what is. The acquisition of knowledge is what's important not HOW it was 
acquired. If you are smart enough to judge the knowledge of others then respect 
your judgment. It's as simple as that. 



  Will Lowe 


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 6:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [brlug-general] 4 year degrees and IT positions


  Gentleman:

  B.S. is what you THINK it is.

  M.S. is just MORE of it.

  Phd. stands for Piled higher & deeper.

  Some companies want a 20 year old with a Phd., 10 years of "experience" and 
STILL wanna pay him $5.50 an hour and NO "benefits!"  This is NOT just in 
Louisiana, either.

  Your best bet is while your going *getting your edukayshon* is to start your 
own business and go from there.  IF you have the *stick-to-it-ness* and a 
decent business plan, you just may make it.

  A job is not always about $money$ though.  Choose something that you REALLY 
enjoy doing, instead of trying to make megabucks and you'll be a LOT happier.  
Doing something EVERY day that you enjoy and are interested in is much more 
rewarding mentally, spiritually(peace of mind) and socially.

  Just me 2?,

  "Cap'n Buck"

  P.S. Can anyone see this, besides me? Or is it telling you that I have an 
"embedded message?" 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Riddle)
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Well said.  Knowledge is power.  Read, learn, and
grow!


--- Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Since everybody else is throwing their money in
> here's my sense (play on words if you didn't guess).
> 
> 
>   Knowledge has NOTHING to do with a piece of paper
> (degree). Many of our most respected intellectuals
> and scientists in history didn't always have a
> degree. What they ALL did have in common was an
> inquisitive mind and a certain drive to understand
> that which they were interested in. That is the key
> to acquiring a degree also but it is not limited to
> those that seek a degree. 
> 
>   Businesses and organizations that require minimum
> higher education standards are depriving theirseves
> of a rich resource of talent. In fact I would look
> more closely at a self-taught person than one
> holding a degree in his/her hand and actually do
> this in my own business. Which do you really think
> had more stick with-it-ness to get where they are? 
> 
>   I think that it is easier for those of us with a
> degree to justify our choice to acquire one by
> comparing others by that choice. This is latently
> wrong. As I read this thread I noticed several of
> you mention some with degrees that were "dumb as
> bricks". If this is not prove enough of what I am
> saying I don't know what is. The acquisition of
> knowledge is what's important not HOW it was
> acquired. If you are smart enough to judge the
> knowledge of others then respect your judgment. It's
> as simple as that. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Will Lowe 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 6:46 AM
>   Subject: Re: [brlug-general] 4 year degrees and IT
> positions
> 
> 
>   Gentleman:
> 
>   B.S. is what you THINK it is.
> 
>   M.S. is just MORE of it.
> 
>   Phd. stands for Piled higher & deeper.
> 
>   Some companies want a 20 year old with a Phd., 10
> years of "experience" and STILL wanna pay him $5.50
> an hour and NO "benefits!"  This is NOT just in
> Louisiana, either.
> 
>   Your best bet is while your going *getting your
> edukayshon* is to start your own business and go
> from there.  IF you have the *stick-to-it-ness* and
> a decent business plan, you just may make it.
> 
>   A job is not always about $money$ though.  Choose
> something that you REALLY enjoy doing, instead of
> trying to make megabucks and you'll be a LOT
> happier.  Doing something EVERY day that you enjoy
> and are interested in is much more rewarding
> mentally, spiritually(peace of mind) and socially.
> 
>   Just me 2ยข,
> 
>   "Cap'n Buck"
> 
>   P.S. Can anyone see this, besides me? Or is it
> telling you that I have an "embedded message?" 
> 
> 
>
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