On 13:34 Fri 07 Nov     , michael dolan wrote:
> I think I need to clarify things a bit here.  I don't think LSU has a 
> problem with open source.  They have this <http://www.redhat.lsu.edu> 
> <http://www.redhat.lsu.edu> and there is now an offshoot of the it 
> listserve just for operating systems.  I've heard they are going to 
> convert some of the computers in the labs (esp. the library and computer 
> science building) to linux.
> I think the situation I was describing came about not because of 
> system-wide distrust of open source, but because of other factors.  In 
> my department, the person in charge of the IT didn't know what she was 
> doing, so she hired a CS student worker.  The student worker is the kind 
> that would really love to work for M$.  Since he knows how to add a 
I took several CS classes while working on my undergrad in computer
engineering, and I have found several problems with the department.  One big
problem is, they still teach students how to use strcpy(), and if that
doesn't scare you then I might just start crying. Another probblem is, they
are a little behind the times, linux is so CS friendly its not even funny.
With linux you can download the source, fiddle with it, then compile it with
a free compiler.  Students can really come out of the CS department with the
M$ mentality for writing crappy code.
> computer to a network, his boss thinks he knows what he is doing.  I 
> work for a department within a larger department, which is who the 
> student worker works for.
I have seen this with admins, they are usually really lazy and are taking the
easy way out.

#!/usr/bin/perl -Tw
my Crapy_admins = "Winblows";
my Crapy_system = "Winblows";
if( Crapy_admins eq Crapy_system )
  {
    print "Micro$oft!";
  }
> 
> It doesn't have anything to do with grants, funding, M$ kickbacks, or 
> even LSU.  It boils down to one student worker that doesn't understand 
> or like open source, and other people not understanding or caring.  It 
> goes both ways, if I had his job I could install open office and mozilla 
> on every machine and the higher ups wouldn't know the difference.
Oh they would notice, just by the fact that it doesn't crash every 12
seconds.
> 
> Actually, the boss has recently left, and someone new is in charge...  
> I'm hoping to pull him aside at some point and convince him open source 
> products are not all that bad.
> 
> Michael
> Robert Leche wrote:
> 
> >You might want to point out to your PHB (Pointy Haired Boss) the same 
> >reasons that prevent you from installing OpenOffice, are some reason 
> >to remove  Microsoft applications and Microsoft operating systems 
> >(because of security risks and buggy code). ;)
> >
> >Ask your PHB how his or her budget for IT related items, hardware and 
> >software  is going.  Our department saw large Microsoft OS and 
> >application cost increase over the last 2 years.   
> >
> >Also ask the question: Is the Louisiana tax payer and the students on 
> >our campus receiving optimal value with a closed source mentality? 
> >Funny thing is, I though our University was a place where alternative 
> >ideas where allowed.
> >
> >On the other side of the issue.
> >One thing to consider is the politics of grants or sources of funding 
> >related computer equipment at the university. On more than one 
> >occasion we have seen stipulations placed on computer systems that 
> >come from grants or donations. The terms specify which OS and what 
> >applications are allowed. Particularly with systems donated by........ 
> >you guested it..... Micro$oft. Therein lies the rub. The answer maybe 
> >the PHB is not allowed to install non-Micro$oft software.
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> > 
> >Bob
> 
> 
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