Unless some user decides he knows better and has static set his  machines 
ip address.  Are all the machines locked down so that the computer users do 
not have administrator access?  I've had this happen when department gets a 
vendor in to set up a system without contacting IT and the vendor just 
looks at the ip addressing scheme and "takes" an address that seems to make 
sense.............make sense until I am up all night trying to figure out 
where the problem is located.  In fact, users with just a little bit of 
knowledge....just enough to screw things up......can go in and screw things 
up in the same way.
I've always found that assuming that things are how they are supposed to be 
only lengthens the time needed to troubleshoot the problem......remember, 
BE the golf ball.

If you've narrowed things down to the point that ....leaving this router 
down allows the rest of the network to function correctly ......then you 
are halfway there.  Replace that router with anything else that will 
work......another router....a linux box with the appropriate number of nics 
and set it up as a router........apply the routes needed.  If the network 
continues to function then you have a screwed up router.   If it messes up 
again then verify its static routes vs. each of the next hops static routes 
or you may have a loop in one of your switches behind that 
router.  Basically, divide and conquer.

Let us know how it turns out......I'm damned curious now!  And I want a 
heads up, in case I ever have the same exact thing happen.......doesn't 
sound pleasant! <G>
Cleve




At 08:37 AM 12/6/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Its a simple network.   Mostly DHCP.  The only static ips are 
>servers...Novell, PDC, Email, Oracle, Citrix. extra-net.   All others DHCP...
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