Hi there gentoo users:
Gentoo takes forever to install I do not think that is too difficult if you 
have some knowledge of Linux and feel fairly confortable with the command 
prompt; more than anything one needs patience, and more patience.

In a 2.4Gz takes about 3 hours from stage 1 to stage 3. From Stage 3 to XFree 
and Window Maker is not too bad I think about 5 hours I think. Now, KDE could 
well be 12-16 hours, never really checked but It was definitly over night. 
Mozilla and particularly open OpenOffice, take for ever as well.

The probelm with KDE is that all the packages have to be installed. It is 
possible to alter the build files so that it does not include kdeedu or 
kdemultimedia packages for instance. I have no idea how but I have read the 
manuals and it is possible.

There was time that I was so affraid to rebuild the packages. I just knew that 
the compile was going to die somowhere. That is no longer the case, I have 
not seen a failed compile in months maybe over a year. This even includes the 
picky OpenOffice. These are my make.conf settings which seem to work great.

USE="apache2 curl dga dv dvd fbcon gd gnomedb gstreamer gtk2 imap innodb \
     java javascript jikes mozinterfaceinfo moznocompose moznoirc moznoxft \
     php samba sis xine -apm -foomaticdb -alsa -berkdb -arts"

CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O3 -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe"

I love Gentoo and the binary CDs look great and will make the install as fast 
as redhat. The new disks seem to be using Knoppix routines which has it was 
once stated in the group, seems to be one of the best hardware detection 
routines.

        http://store.gentoo.org/index.php?item=13&action=viewitem

Alvaro Zuniga

PS: as a vivid Gentoo user, I am associated with them so you bet I am hopping 
you click on that link a buy the CD because it would benefit me greatly.


On Monday 08 December 2003 08:15 am, Eric G Ortego wrote:
> CMB wrote:
> > OK.  Now you've got me interested.
> >
> > How does the install of Gentoo compare to the install of  Debian?  In
> > terms of time and ease of use?
>
> The gentoo install is long, very long. I admit that I have not tryed the
> newer GRP type install but on my laptop 800MHZ 512M mem it took about 4
> days to install from stage 1 with kde. As a fairly experianced gentoo
> user I can do a stage 1 install "in my sleep" :-) (litteraly for the
> most part there will be much time to sleep). However if your the
> impatient type you might opt for a Stage 3 install, which does not
> require you compileing the entire base system from scratch, or the GRP
> install which can be done entirely from CDs. I warn you however I have
> been told that you will be much more satisfied with your gentoo desktop
> system installing from stage 1 but Its not to hard to force gentoo to
> recompile the entire system with fewer, more, or the same USE flags.
> I've never installed debian, still cannot get over the fact that the
> debian stable consists of a 2.2 kernel, and I know they include a 2.4
> but doesnt that make 90% of the debian users on unstable which means the
> stable isn't even being pressed for improvements or fixes just upgrades?
> Ill stick with gentoo.
>
> > John Hebert wrote:
> >> Gentoo, w/o a doubt. You will end up with a stripped down hotrod
> >> Linux install and you will know what exactly is under the hood. You
> >> will appreciate learning about Gentoo's very nifty packaging system,
> >> which is kinda like the BSD ports tree, but for Linux.
> >>
> >> Joey Kelly wrote:
> >
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