Sounds like great advice....I'll keep you posted on the progress.

> 
> From: will hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/03/04 Thu AM 08:21:53 EST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] question about installing stuff
> 
> On 2004.03.04 05:25 Cleve Allison wrote:
> 
> > Doug,
> > Actually, I used the knoppix-installer to lay down a harddrive image of 
> > the knoppix 3.3 live-cd......like Libranet it is a mixture. Then I did 
> > an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
> > I can actually do an apt-get install flowscan to install the package but 
> > I've been downloading all the .tar.gz files and doing the whole 
> > ./configure, make, make install thing. flowscan uses a patched version 
> > of cflowd which in turn uses arts++
> > Flowscan is like MRTG on steroids, and it also uses rrdtools to make 
> > graphs, etc...........rather than simply showing the volume of traffic 
> > going in and out of the various interfaces of a device via snmp mib 
> > info, flowscan uses the Cisco NetFlow info along with snmp, etc to 
> > provide a more detailed graph of traffic by protocol, service, etc
> > Very useful, but so far its been daunting to install and 
> > configure.......the documentation is not for the newbie and this is the 
> > first real enterprise level production deployment of a linux based 
> > application that I am working on. I've been local support for linux 
> > boxes/products before but these were vendor products.
> > Last night I wiped everything clean and started fresh..........first 
> > thing I noticed was that arts++ didn't make correctly.....Knoppix has 
> > GNU Make 3.8.0 and I think there is an issue with the arts++ software 
> > not having flex headers or .hh or somethingorother.....if that makes any 
> > sense. Today I am going to try an older version of arts++.....and there 
> > is also a reference by the author of flowscan that he had to edit some 
> > file to include a directory where his flex headers were actually 
> > located????
> > Does this sound like a lesson in futility? I'm definitely over my head 
> > with this but I have to admit that I am slowly, painfully learning a lot.
> > cleve
> > 
> 
> Yikes!  Mixing "first" with hot software, that's got to be tough.  
> 
> Starting from scratch sounds like a good idea.  Do you need to start from 
> Knoppix?  I'd want as stripped down a box as I could get to learn about a new 
> package like this and I'd want to start with the deb pacage.  The debpackage 
> is going to have captured a lot of configuration fiddling and dependency 
> resolution.  A quick look at the packages that flowscan depends on runs into 
> mysqlclient10, a fork for working with non-gpl software.  If you are working 
> from tarballs, you might have missed that and other issues.  Knoppix is an 
> awsome workstation, but it might be the wrong place to start for utilities 
> like flowscan.  That you are just learning about a package is double the 
> reason to run the package and nothing but the package on that box.  For 
> comfort, I would set up another box with Knoppix to shell into the package 
> box.  
> 
> Thanks for mentioning what looks like a very nice tool.  Good luck with it 
> and let us all know how it turns out.  
> 
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