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> |> ok, Can you record the changes and apply the same changes to
> |> every other file?
>
>
> | nope  but it would be a nice feature to add.
>
> Haha nice, I just installed gphpedit and Ill answer my own question,
> it is possible. You just need to record a macro, hehe nice little
editor!

I am thinking about adding drag and drop support under gnome. This would
make a great difference for me. I usually have three copies of the
editor
running and three or four nautilus windows. I find it a lot more
confortable to drag and drop the file.

I bet you rather do
:r ../../admin/templates/this_is_the_wrong_file.tpl

:-)

by the way gphpedit does not handle that extension  among others. The
file
in the file tab.c you can add one more line for this at line 381 and
recompile.

(strcmp(file_extension, "tpl") == 0) ||

> However this has gotten waaay off topic, gphpedit is nice for php, but
> for me there is nothing it does that I need that vim doesnt do, and I
> really like php.

Class Viewer is not available in vi.

But my dislike with vi is not a matter of its features really. WhatI
hate is the what you need to do to save and even search. When I was
refering about the far away keys is not that it is only one key but
multiple keys at opposite locations of the keyboard. Those I believe are
the most basic functions of any editor.


> vim can do code folding too you know.
> You can create named markers, named buffers, move named buffers to
> named markers, jump between named markers.... soo many things...
> And its fast, in a screen session, xterm, console, across a 14.4kbps
> satelite phone at $10 a minute(how much data would you want to move),
> vim rocks.

It probably requires magic to make them work.

> |> No I did not know but I would rather thing UNIX programs and any
> |> program in general are a stand alone application that can be used
> |> from any other program. Anything else, in my opinion, is trying
> |> to do to much.
>
>
> I cant use gphpedit on the console :-(
>
> |> I am talking about saving. Usually ^S in most systems thanks to
> |> MacIntosh. Comparet that to the mighty VI.
>
>
> oic
>
> |> That is one of the points I did not even make. Would it not be
> |> nice if you did not have to learn such common action? ^S
>
>
> no! :-) I like learning, :-P

Would you not like this knowlege to transfer to other applications? Kind
of like Perl and Posix regex.


> |
> | |> What about if you forgot to su as I often do :-)
> |
> | Is that any diffrent in gphpedit?
> |
> |
> |> yes it is, and if you do forget how to ^S ... well. You are  vi
> |> guru.
> |
>
> I don't understand. If you edit a file you don't own you cannot save
> changes to that file.
> In any editor you either save as another file to a location you do
> have write perm's or you chmod the file, in any event :w
> /path/to/a/newfile.txt saves to a new file where :w defaults to the
> current file's name.

All I meant to say is that if you forget to do su, as soon as you try to
edit a file you get the notice that the file is read only. Then you have
to exit vi and su and then start it again. With pico or nano this will
be
a lot more confortable because there are less commands.


> |> I am, 120-150 words per second but I would rather use that skill
> |> elsewhere.
>
>
> nowhere but the keyboard...
>

I am impressed about my speed "words per second" ...

> |
> |> I appreciate your response because it expands my knowledge;
> | particularly
> |> that of why people do things differently.
>
>
> :-)
> I just hope this helped you think like someone who will "never think
> normally."
>
> |
> |> thank you very much for your response. I use Linux for more than
> |> simply parsing a PHP file because I know the power of this
> |> system. My part
> | time
> |> job is trying to sell people the fact that the can do this for
> |> their business. Unfortunately, I am a bad salesperson but I do a
> |> few sales every year. Besides a bad sales man I am a very busy
> |> programmer and musician. However,  VI is never something I would
> |> attempt to sell because it does not have a standard that people
> |> can relate.
>
>
> You can sell anyone anything. People don't like to be sold but they
> love to buy.
> And we can thank forced public schooling for this, but that is a whole
> other avenue to be debated.

I would like people not only to like what I sell them to them but be
happy
and impressed with what they get. Maybe this is why I am a bad salesman.

take care,

Alvaro Zuniga



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