On May 7, 2004, at 7:02 AM, michael dolan wrote: > From the Email on LSU ITinfo, I can't tell if they are saying every > LSU student will have to have a laptop, and every windows laptop will > need to have AD, or if every student will need to buy a windows > laptop.
Knowing LSU, I assumed the the latter will be true. But you are right, from the guy's notes, it is unclear. I was tired and did automatically assume the latter when I read this. > Can anyone who went to the meeting clarify this? > I don't really see how they are going to make this jive with the > graphic design dept requirement of a mac laptop for every one of their > students. > They have been talking about this for a while now, and I just don't > see how it would be enforceable. Would you have to buy a laptop > through the university? On the first day of every freshman class > would you have to show your laptop to your professors? Would you need > to show up at a designated time and place to show someone from OCS > your laptop, and turn it on so they could see it was a windows > machine? I also see the enforcement being the major issue. I can see a kid going home and installing the newest latest "greatest" MS OS and overwriting all of the AD settings. > I just don't see how this would be enforceable. I'm currently a > student and an employee of LSU, and the school itself is just way too > unorganized to enforce something like this. Pass a rule, yes, I can > see them doing that. There are many ways one could get out of this. > Dual boot, don't go to class the first day, don't take any 1000 level > classes your first semester, borrow a friends laptop, etc... > > As for the whole AD thing, again I don't see them actually enforcing > it. But, on a personal note, I really didn't understand why the > department I work for refuses to use AD (or set up antivirus software > or windows update correctly). There is no reason I can see other than > job security for admins coming down and heroically saving the > computers every time one of the unpatched and unupdated machines gets > a virus. We actually need AD. I'm sure this is not the case in other > departments, but in mine, I welcome it. Rules are made to be broken. > Hopefully if an admin who knows what they are doing breaks the rule > and can explain why, OCS will let them go. I don't really see the reason for AD, but I also don't understand someone not installing Norton 8 or setting up the updates. LSU has a site license for Norton AV so it doesn't even cost anything. I wish that LSU would firewall between the different departments at LSU. I think that would contain infections to a department, if your department is constantly infected, well your department has a problem. > > Just my 2 cents, > Michael > > Shannon Roddy wrote: > >>> >> >> This was taken from an LSU posting today: >> >>> >>>> IT-Folks, >>>> >>>> For the benefit of my own department, I prepped a very brief set >>>> of notes >>>> (attached) to summarize today's meeting. >>> >>> >>> <I snipped this from his notes> >>> >>> Topic: Laptop program >>> LSU is exploring a laptop requirement for students at LSU. This >>> would work >>> in tandem with the likelihood that ALL Windows computers at LSU will >>> be >>> required to be an "Active Directory" participant. Active Directory >>> is a >>> Windows server component that centralizes resources. It is seen as a >>> necessary >>> step toward securing the LSU network. >>> >>> </snip> >> >> >> As a full time systems administrator for Caltech and a part time >> student at LSU, I would emphatically protest the requirement to have >> a windows laptop as part of my enrollment. A laptop requirement is >> fine, but *I* should be able to choose the OS, especially if I have >> to buy the damn thing. Linux may not be the answer, but I have found >> OS X to have the best of both worlds, especially for a student. I >> wonder if I could sue the university? Hmm... laptop enters campus, >> gets infected, I get home and it infects my network... You get the >> idea. I think LSU has enough problems with Windows worms floating >> around without 20,000+ students bringing them in from home. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Shannon Roddy LIGO - Caltech 225.686.3106 (work) 225.686.3174 (work #2) 225.933.7821 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
