Same story here. When my server conked, I had to decide between a new computer or move to a host provider for my web and email. I did a little math. I calculated the cost of running my computer 24x7. Assumed that system consumed 200W and runs 24X7 365 days, (200x24x365)/1000 = 1752 kWh for a year. I think the unit kWh rate is around $.05. So for an year I would end up paying roughly $87.6 which is more or less the same amount that I would pay for my hosting services. Added to this I had to buy new hardware if I wanted to host at home. Besides, I don't have to worry about applying patches or monitoring my server.
-- Karthik Poobalasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 05/03/2005 01:36 pm, Adam Melancon wrote: > Ditto! ;) > Interesting debate though! > > On 5/3/05, Tim Fournet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right. There comes a time when you've learned all you can by > > hosting something on your own, and you're ready to stop worrying about > > the conditions of running a server out of a home network. I used to host > > my web and email at home, but I've since moved everything to a > > commercial host. Not because I don't have the ability to do it myself, > > but because it's just not worth it when I can pay a little money and > > have someone else provide all the hardware, bandwidth, backups, > > environment, and power requirements that someone like me who lives in an > > apartment can't. I get all the server administering practice I need at > > work--I don't need to build a 3rd rate network out of spare parts at > > home and risk pissing off my ISP. > > > > Adam Melancon wrote: > > >Yes, but if cox is blocking port 80, how are you going to explain to > > >grandma to go to melancon.org:8080/gallery/ when they have a hard > > >enough time with melancon.org? > > > > > >Plus, I'd like to politely defend my own recent lack of DIY when it > > >comes to my webserver. > > >Melancon.org has been running as a test machine on my network at work > > >where I am/was the systems administrator for the vermilion parish > > >library. It was hosted on the test machine and I setup my own DNS > > >entries at www.granitecanyon.com. It served its purpose for the time > > >and allowed me to exeriment with things before I did them on the > > >actual production machines. At this library I have probably about 7 > > >linux servers, several linux desktops for staff and patrons, and two > > >windows servers. I've setup everything from linux terminals to > > >firewalls to webservers to squid caching servers and filters. It's > > >not that I don't want to tinker, its just that I just want to upload > > >the photos and forget about maintaining that machine for a while. > > >I just got a new job in Lafayette where I will be the systems > > >administrator for all 10 libraries in Lafayette parish, so my hands > > >will be full for now. > > > > > >Just figured I'd give some back story on why I was looking to host it. > > > > > >On 5/3/05, Joseph Fruchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Okay, so how do I point my registrar to direct my domain name to the > > >>server at my house? > > >> > > >>On 5/3/05, michael dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>At the risk of being modded -1 repetitive, I totally agree. > > >>>I had never even heard of linux and had only owned my first computer > > >>> for about 3 months when I got into a conversation about running your > > >>> own web server. Someone said it couldn't be done from home with no > > >>> budget, I disagreed even though none of us had any idea what we were > > >>> talking about, and they challenged me to do it. I did it, became a > > >>> geek, and turned my apartment into a computer graveyard. It was like > > >>> peeling an onion, and every layer just made me more interested. From > > >>> what is this linux thing I hear about on the internet, to the > > >>> philosophy of free software, to actually learning (on my own) how > > >>> internet protocols work by making mistakes and actually making them > > >>> function. When I started, I didn't even know how to ask a question, > > >>> and I am incredibly embarrassed when I stumble across some of my old > > >>> posts on linuxquestions.org, but I did it and I loved it. > > >>>Michael > > >>> > > >>>Joey Kelly wrote: > > >>>>Guys, > > >>>> > > >>>>Maybe it's just me, but when I got into this thing back early 2000, > > >>>> the thing to do if you were a self-respecting Linux geek was to set > > >>>> up your own web/mail/DNS/whatever server if you were rich enough to > > >>>> get a DSL line. I understand that several providers have taken it > > >>>> upon themselves to block outbound web and mail, but still, I see a > > >>>> lack of enthusiasm on this list and the nolug list about such > > >>>> things. > > >>>> > > >>>>Maybe everyone's just into using Linux as a desktop OS these days, > > >>>> and that's fine, but if any of you are thinking of doing any kind of > > >>>> administration or support for a living, I strongly suggest that you > > >>>> leverage the fact that you have at your disposal the best networking > > >>>> OS available, for free. You might not have access to Cisco gear --- > > >>>> I still don't, but that hasn't stopped me > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>from learning at least something about practically every aspect of > > >>>> networking > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>and computers. As a result of my inquisitiveness and tinkering, I > > >>>> quite often end up instructing Cisco- and other-certified techs a > > >>>> thing or two now and then. I don't claim to be much of an expert, > > >>>> you understand, but I've played with this stuff on a > > >>>> non-click-and-drool OS for so long, I've gotten to know my way > > >>>> around the networking model. > > >>>> > > >>>>^C > > >>>> > > >>>>On Monday May 2 2005 20:41, michael dolan spake: > > >>>>>It's actually been a few years since I've done it. I think it might > > >>>>> be time to do it again. I just played around with it anyway, and > > >>>>> when the Mb died in that computer I stopped.. I knew cox upped > > >>>>> both down and upload speed, but I had a brain freeze. Sorry, I had > > >>>>> an exam today. Michael > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Joey Kelly wrote: > > >>>>>>On Monday May 2 2005 17:24, michael dolan spake: > > >>>>>>>You can easily get around your ISP blocking port 80, but the > > >>>>>>> upload speeds will kill you on a cable connection. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>>>>>------ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>General mailing list > > >>>>>>>[email protected] > > >>>>>>>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > >>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>General mailing list > > >>>[email protected] > > >>>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>General mailing list > > >>[email protected] > > >>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/general_brlug.net/attachments/20050503/da95ed65/attachment.bin From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 3 09:38:18 2005 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Hill) Date: Tue May 3 15:53:46 2005 Subject: [brlug-general] polite rant (was: Webhosting suggestions?) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By giving him a Mepis, Knoppix or Debian CD. Be prepared to duck if they are a fanboy. On Tuesday 03 May 2005 01:56 pm, Joseph Fruchey wrote: > Okay, I have a friend who wants to host a domain on a Windows box. > Besides the obvious security implications, how would one proceed? > > Joey
