And at the same time, the SysV fans are moving to something even more 
modern ;)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit is a good starter for looking at 
some of the new ideas and tools for a faster/better bootup manager. SysV 
is great in that it keeps everything organized and manageable, but it's 
a bottleneck at boot time (so is BSD) and we're at a point now that we 
need something better.

The new proposals support parallel process startups, even better error 
handling, automatically restart failed services, and handle runtime 
dependencies. Very interesting stuff.



Dustin Puryear wrote:

> Yes, FreeBSD is definitely moving toward SysV init. And yes, 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail is SysV-ish. :)
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] BSD
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>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Fernando Vilas wrote:
>>
>>> By "mucking through" the rc files, did you perhaps mean 
>>> /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail restart ?  At least that's where slack has had 
>>> it for several years. Not trying to start a flame war here, but 
>>> isn't it the same thing?
>>
>>
>> Not trying to start a flame war either, and yes it is the same 
>> thing.  But an rc.d/rc.sendmail restart script seems very very 
>> SysV-like to me.  I haven't used slack since 1997 or so, maybe they 
>> adopted some SysV stuff?
>> I was mainly talking about FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
>>
>>> Now for some of the networking stuff, I can see your point.  the 
>>> easiest thing to do is to learn to use ifconfig and iwconfig from 
>>> the command line.
>>
>>
>> ifconfig works, but gets more complicated when you have multiple 
>> interfaces.  You have to lookup which interface, find the old ip, 
>> netmask, broadcast, static routes, etc etc.  Further complicated when 
>> you have multiple ip aliases and many vlan interfaces.  It's way too 
>> much room for human error and typo's.  A typo while changing the 
>> network remotely is disastrous.  I don't like typing, it's error 
>> prone and slows you down. I'd rather changed the init script and let 
>> the system do the typing...it doesn't make typo's.
>>
>> ray
>>
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