My favorite FreeBSD start-up feature: You can Control-C a service startup. 
Linux needs that. :)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Fournet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] BSD


> And at the same time, the SysV fans are moving to something even more 
> modern ;)
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FCNewInit is a good starter for looking at 
> some of the new ideas and tools for a faster/better bootup manager. SysV 
> is great in that it keeps everything organized and manageable, but it's a 
> bottleneck at boot time (so is BSD) and we're at a point now that we need 
> something better.
>
> The new proposals support parallel process startups, even better error 
> handling, automatically restart failed services, and handle runtime 
> dependencies. Very interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
>> Yes, FreeBSD is definitely moving toward SysV init. And yes, 
>> /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail is SysV-ish. :)
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] BSD
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Fernando Vilas wrote:
>>>
>>>> By "mucking through" the rc files, did you perhaps mean 
>>>> /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail restart ?  At least that's where slack has had it 
>>>> for several years. Not trying to start a flame war here, but isn't it 
>>>> the same thing?
>>>
>>>
>>> Not trying to start a flame war either, and yes it is the same thing. 
>>> But an rc.d/rc.sendmail restart script seems very very SysV-like to me. 
>>> I haven't used slack since 1997 or so, maybe they adopted some SysV 
>>> stuff?
>>> I was mainly talking about FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
>>>
>>>> Now for some of the networking stuff, I can see your point.  the 
>>>> easiest thing to do is to learn to use ifconfig and iwconfig from the 
>>>> command line.
>>>
>>>
>>> ifconfig works, but gets more complicated when you have multiple 
>>> interfaces.  You have to lookup which interface, find the old ip, 
>>> netmask, broadcast, static routes, etc etc.  Further complicated when 
>>> you have multiple ip aliases and many vlan interfaces.  It's way too 
>>> much room for human error and typo's.  A typo while changing the network 
>>> remotely is disastrous.  I don't like typing, it's error prone and slows 
>>> you down. I'd rather changed the init script and let the system do the 
>>> typing...it doesn't make typo's.
>>>
>>> ray
>>>
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