I use nano/pico as well. This probably is because all I ever really do is edit config files, and I generally slog through sh*t pretty slowly. Im sure if I worked on linux enough to where I was all about optimizing my time, IE my fingers never leave the keyboard, I would use vim or emacs. I spent a day or so trying to learn vim based on the "Its installed everywhere" maxim. It was just so counter-intuitive to me I couldnt do it. Emacs I find a bit better, at least I can open a file, edit it, then save it. For me, pico is best becasue well, it does what I need it to (which really isnt that much". I would think that if I had a job where I had to do shell scripts every day, I would probably make the switch to emacs and take the time to train myself. By the way im out of here punks, my move to the bay area is final (apt key in pocket). If anyone has a line on a job out there, pass it my way please. Ill be living on my sailboat in new orleans for the next month or so, but i have wireless there so should be checking the ol email. Peace Chris
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of -ray Sent: Sun 7/3/2005 9:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [brlug-general] eclipse madness I'll just say that I've never met a person who really knew how to use vi and still hated it. You can learn the basics of vi, and get it doing everything pico/nano does, in about 15 minutes. In pico i'm constantly banging on the arrows, backspace, or ctrl-[kvy]. In vi, my fingers never leave the keyboard. For me, it's a much more efficient tool for getting the job done. I suspect that's why a lot of us use Linux in the first place. ray On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, Dennis wrote: > On 7/2/05, Andrew Baudouin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't know, don't know, and don't know. Both Ubuntu and Gentoo, my >> distro's of choice, use it as their preferred editor. I find it >> interesting that instead of replying to my main reason for not using vi, >> you replied with features it has that aren't even necessary for basic >> text editing. >> >> vi doesn't come by default on gentoo, either. > > > I will respond to your original reason. If the only tools that you are > willing to use, are the tools that require no learning at all, then expect > to waste hours doing the same function a thousand times. _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5540 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/general_brlug.net/attachments/20050703/dcdd5554/attachment.bin From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 2 18:39:38 2005 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Kuhns) Date: Sun Jul 3 11:05:29 2005 Subject: [brlug-general] eclipse madness In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My vote goes to joe (guess it's a write in since I haven't seen it mentioned in the thread), must be a throw back to my first job as a programmer, we had to use a dos based Wordstar editor so I don't think I'll ever forget the ctrl-k sequences... Must say vi has saved my but a few times - had to learn it for the dumb terminals on the pyramid systems at USL, glad I knew it for those times I've been on machines with nothing else, but I agree ancient and cryptic. Haven't used vim, nano or pico very much so I can't really comment on them - joe has everything I need. James > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Lowe > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:42 PMq > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] eclipse madness > > Ooh, I second that. Let's vote. > > vi = ancient Unix, cryptic, "we know something you don't" technology. > nano,pico = modern, intuitive, "what you see is what you get" > technology. > > Will > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Baudouin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] eclipse madness > > > > Shannon Roddy wrote: > > > >>On 6/30/05, Andrew Baudouin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>GNU NANO! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I despise nano. > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>General mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> > >> > > Well, I despise vi, so I guess that makes us even. > > > > Vi wins the award for most unusable interface for an > editor.....ever. > > > > I should not have to read a manpage to figure out how to > use an editor. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
