Dustin, I think there is some interest in having some of these discussions go on, but you're right about them bringing the whole list down and driving people out. How about creating a 'brlug-political' list where people can move replies to when they have something political to say. I personally don't like seeing the flame wars go on, but providing a lesser-moderated list for it would discourage a lot of the arguments that happen here, I think. It should also be the place where discussions about advocation and news articles should go. I'd like the general list to remain purely technical..
Just a suggestion -Tim Dustin Puryear wrote: >Okay, I agree. There's a problem. For some odd reason, this seems to float >across LUG lists. I saw this happen to another LUG several months ago and >they finally cleared up the problem. Let's see what we can do here. > >First, I'm going to call out a few people. > >Will- You are a great resource. Everyone in the LUG appreciates your >technical responses, your willingness to do the Clickers/BRLUG Newbie >meetings, and your constant availability here. However, I think we all >understand your viewpoints on Microsoft, and, frankly, most of us could care >less to hear about them anymore. WE GET IT. You don't like Microsoft. Move >on. > >Andrew- Dude, nice to have you onboard. You are relatively new here. >However, every conversation you are involved in turns into bickering. I >don't think you do this intentionally, but the way you phrase your arguments >is borderline vitriolic, at best. If you want to stay on this list then keep >your conversation technical from now on. Otherwise, I will remove you. > >John- One of my good personal friends, so everyone be aware that I'm being >fair here. Dude, stop letting people bait you. That simple. > >Second, if I have to enable moderation on this list for a few weeks to help >then I will. Keep the discussions technical. > >If anyone wants to discuss this further, then contact me off-list. If you >complain on this list then I'll probably just remove you with nary a >warning. > >--- >Puryear Information Technology, LLC >Baton Rouge, LA * 225-706-8414 >http://www.puryear-it.com > >Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" >Download your free copy: >http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Adam Melancon" <adammelancon at gmail.com> >To: <General at brlug.net> >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:13 AM >Subject: [brlug-general] Downhill... Re: .NET is just another technology >wasRe: Fox News column > > > > >>Boy... this mailing list (like everything else on the internet) is >>heading downhill fast. >>The constant bickering EVERYWHERE is getting sickening. >>Every time I turn on the TV, it's people arguing. >>Every time I turn on talk radio, it's people arguing. >>Every time I look at a message board, it's people arguing. >>Now it seems like every email thread that gets started on this list is >>people arguing. >>I'm sick of it. >> >>Is there no place anywhere that involves any type of media where >>people don't instantly turn into a-holes. John, this is not directed >>at you, or any particular person, but at a common theme that has >>nested itself deep into the thought and action process associated with >>those on the internet these days. >>I'm not saying that this particular thread has gone there...yet, but >>that is how most of the discussions end up on this list, and on most >>lists these days. >> >>I hate to be one of those that send an email to say it, but I really >>think this might be my last day as a brlug mailing list subscriber. >>There is too much negativity in the world today as it is, and I don't >>need it being delivered into my inbox on a daily basis. >> >>Congratulations to those on the list who got what they wanted and ran >>more people off by shoveling negativity and a barrage of attacks and >>insults consistently into what could be a good platform for support, >>guidance and open (positive) discussion. >> >>On 10/14/05, John Hebert <metanoid at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>On 10/13/05, Andrew Baudouin <andrewmb at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>And you say that as a .Net programmer~!?!?!?!? >>>> >>>> >>>I say that as a paid programmer; I go where the $ is. Are you >>>suggesting that I should support Microsoft for some other reason than >>>for technological merit? >>> >>>Sure, .NET is nice; huge library, Intellisense, etc., but dang, the >>>dev environment is a bloated beast compared to the elegance of Ruby on >>>Rails, for example. And Vista requires 4GB+ of disk space. Sheesh! How >>>much more proof do you need that Microsoft is anchored to the desktop? >>>Kudos to Google for outsmarting Microsoft in the web services area. >>>Google's APIs don't require me to use a specific platform, btw. >>> >>>Let Microsoft compete just like any other IT company or organization. >>>If a bunch of unwashed hackers and geeks give Microsoft nightmares >>>because they choose to share the fruit of their efforts in order to >>>get back more than they gave, then Microsoft is doing something wrong. >>> >>>Finally, I'd like to point out that the difference between you sharing >>>your knowledge on this mailing list and open source geeks sharing >>>source code is merely syntactical. If you really believed that sharing >>>is bad, then shouldn't you shut up? >>> >>>John >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>General mailing list >>>General at brlug.net >>>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Adam Melancon >>"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more >>violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move >>in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein >> >>_______________________________________________ >>General mailing list >>General at brlug.net >>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >General mailing list >General at brlug.net >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >
