This thread is ended. So is the .NET one. Both of the recent posts were from
around 9:00 AM CST, so that's understandable. But this is it. Thread closed,
bye-bye.

Also, emails like what is below (e.g., "That's because Linux people are
more...") will result in people being kicked off the list. Whether people
want to admit it or not, this is tit-for-tat type posting and it's old.

I'm tired of childish posts.

Complain off-list. If you complain on-list you are gone.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andrew Baudouin
To: General at brlug.net
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Downhill... Re: .NET is just another technology
was Re: Fox News column


Let's not forget that the Linux kernel started off with a flamewar between
Linus and Tanenbaum on comp.os.minix :0)

One problem might be that the messages posted to the group are mostly
anti_-MS and about whatever new spyware or IE exploit has been found, rather
than actual discussion of linux.  (That's because Linux people are more
rabidly anti-MS then they are pro-Linux) :)

Andrew

Adam Melancon wrote:
Boy... this mailing list (like everything else on the internet) is
heading downhill fast.
The constant bickering EVERYWHERE is getting sickening.
Every time I turn on the TV, it's people arguing.
Every time I turn on talk radio, it's people arguing.
Every time I look at a message board, it's people arguing.
Now it seems like every email thread that gets started on this list is
people arguing.
I'm sick of it.

Is there no place anywhere that involves any type of media where
people don't instantly turn into a-holes.  John, this is not directed
at you, or any particular person, but at a common theme that has
nested itself deep into the thought and action process associated with
those on the internet these days.
I'm not saying that this particular thread has gone there...yet, but
that is how most of the discussions end up on this list, and on most
lists these days.

I hate to be one of those that send an email to say it, but I really
think this might be my last day as a brlug mailing list subscriber.
There is too much negativity in the world today as it is, and I don't
need it being delivered into my inbox on a daily basis.

Congratulations to those on the list who got what they wanted and ran
more people off by shoveling negativity and a barrage of attacks and
insults consistently into what could be a good platform for support,
guidance and open (positive) discussion.

On 10/14/05, John Hebert <metanoid at gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/13/05, Andrew Baudouin <andrewmb at gmail.com> wrote:

And you say that as a .Net programmer~!?!?!?!?

I say that as a paid programmer; I go where the $ is. Are you
suggesting that I should support Microsoft for some other reason than
for technological merit?

Sure, .NET is nice; huge library, Intellisense, etc., but dang, the
dev environment is a bloated beast compared to the elegance of Ruby on
Rails, for example. And Vista requires 4GB+ of disk space. Sheesh! How
much more proof do you need that Microsoft is anchored to the desktop?
Kudos to Google for outsmarting Microsoft in the web services area.
Google's APIs don't require me to use a specific platform, btw.

Let Microsoft compete just like any other IT company or organization.
If a bunch of unwashed hackers and geeks give Microsoft nightmares
because they choose to share the fruit of their efforts in order to
get back more than they gave, then Microsoft is doing something wrong.

Finally, I'd like to point out that the difference between you sharing
your knowledge on this mailing list and open source geeks sharing
source code is merely syntactical. If you really believed that sharing
is bad, then shouldn't you shut up?

John

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