They have some BSD code within their network stack, but having such is not an issue (BSD code is truly free). I've never heard anyone accuse MS of having kernel code that belongs to Linux. The Gnu toolchain is another story entirely.
Novell has plenty of their IP or at least could be accused of having it through Mono. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hmm, I remember that Microsoft had made a comment that they thought that > Linux had some IP of theirs, but they never pursued it. Nor did they > publish details, so I think that was either FUD or they knew that going > down the SCO route was a bad, bad, bad idea. Microsoft tends to have > some smart people at the top, and I don't think they really ever > considered a direct fight like that with Linux or OSS. > > What code does Microsoft have that belongs to Linux? I've heard that > one. I'd like to know more. > > -- > Dustin Puryear > President and Sr. Consultant > Puryear Information Technology, LLC > 225-706-8414 x112 > http://www.puryear-it.com > > Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > Brad Bendily wrote: > > The link in your blog has the best explanation of the Novell/MS > > agreement I have seen: > > http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.html > > > > Do you know if MS has a similar link on their page? I wonder what the > > view is from their side? > > > >>From what I can tell, all this means is that MS won't sue any SuSE > > Linux or its customers for patent issues and > > Novell won't sue MS or MS customers for patent issues. > > > > Didn't this come out around the time of the "SCO owns linux" debate, > > when a lot of details about the > > origination of "code" was coming out and being found. Didn't it come > > out that MS stole some Linux code? And maybe Linux > > stole some MS code or ideas? > > > > I think this was just a way for both companies to protect their > > interest and their customers. And to try to provide peace of mind > > to both their customers. Nothing more. > > bb > > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> You do realize that IBM applies for and is granted more patents than > >> almost any other company in the world? Whether we like current patent > >> law or not, the law is the law. So I don't think that it makes sense to > >> put these companies into a pro- or anti-free side of the ring based on a > >> company's endorsement of patents, since they all use them, and some, > >> like IBM, use them quite a lot. > >> > >> This isn't to say that IBM isn't promoting a free culture (as I noted in > >> the blog), but we need to also know that IBM isn't exactly open in all > >> of its business and it, along with most for-profit companies, has an > >> agenda. That agenda is not about being nice. It's about making money. > >> > >> -- > >> Dustin Puryear > >> President and Sr. Consultant > >> Puryear Information Technology, LLC > >> 225-706-8414 x112 > >> http://www.puryear-it.com > >> > >> Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >> > >> > >> willhill wrote: > >>> I saw this article today: > >>> > >>> > http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/08/novell_aint_the_bad_guy.html?CMP=OTC-6YE827253101&ATT=Novell+Aint+the+Bad+Guy > >>> > >>> and have to say that I don't like what Novel is doing. Software > patents are > >>> evil and Novel's endorsement of them is also evil. Any advantage Novel > has > >>> gained by through their deal is odious. GPL3 negates those advantages > and it > >>> will eventually take over all GPL'd work. > >>> > >>> IBM has not really endorsed the deal either. They have also partnered > with > >>> Red Hat and Cononical which have both loudly refused M$'s money and > patent > >>> trap. > >>> > >>> What's more important about IBM's announcement is willingness to push > for a > >>> free world and the good chance they will get there. Just a few years > ago, > >>> that kind of talk would get you branded a "radical" or "zealot" ... > even in > >>> places like a LUG. IBM is doing a lot of good things for software > freedom. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> General mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >>> > >>> -- > >>> This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. > >>> Click here to report this message as spam. > >>> http://esva.puryear-it.com/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id= > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
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