Ah, here is a good article on the Microsoft/BSD code deal: http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/6/19/05641/7357
Well worth the read and very interesting. -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ Andrew Baudouin wrote: > They have some BSD code within their network stack, but having such is > not an issue (BSD code is truly free). I've never heard anyone accuse > MS of having kernel code that belongs to Linux. The Gnu toolchain is > another story entirely. > > Novell has plenty of their IP or at least could be accused of having it > through Mono. > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hmm, I remember that Microsoft had made a comment that they thought that > Linux had some IP of theirs, but they never pursued it. Nor did they > publish details, so I think that was either FUD or they knew that going > down the SCO route was a bad, bad, bad idea. Microsoft tends to have > some smart people at the top, and I don't think they really ever > considered a direct fight like that with Linux or OSS. > > What code does Microsoft have that belongs to Linux? I've heard that > one. I'd like to know more. > > -- > Dustin Puryear > President and Sr. Consultant > Puryear Information Technology, LLC > 225-706-8414 x112 > http://www.puryear-it.com > > Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > Brad Bendily wrote: > > The link in your blog has the best explanation of the Novell/MS > > agreement I have seen: > > http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.html > > > > Do you know if MS has a similar link on their page? I wonder what the > > view is from their side? > > > >>From what I can tell, all this means is that MS won't sue any SuSE > > Linux or its customers for patent issues and > > Novell won't sue MS or MS customers for patent issues. > > > > Didn't this come out around the time of the "SCO owns linux" debate, > > when a lot of details about the > > origination of "code" was coming out and being found. Didn't it come > > out that MS stole some Linux code? And maybe Linux > > stole some MS code or ideas? > > > > I think this was just a way for both companies to protect their > > interest and their customers. And to try to provide peace of mind > > to both their customers. Nothing more. > > bb > > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Dustin Puryear > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >> You do realize that IBM applies for and is granted more patents than > >> almost any other company in the world? Whether we like current > patent > >> law or not, the law is the law. So I don't think that it makes > sense to > >> put these companies into a pro- or anti-free side of the ring > based on a > >> company's endorsement of patents, since they all use them, and some, > >> like IBM, use them quite a lot. > >> > >> This isn't to say that IBM isn't promoting a free culture (as I > noted in > >> the blog), but we need to also know that IBM isn't exactly open > in all > >> of its business and it, along with most for-profit companies, has an > >> agenda. That agenda is not about being nice. It's about making > money. > >> > >> -- > >> Dustin Puryear > >> President and Sr. Consultant > >> Puryear Information Technology, LLC > >> 225-706-8414 x112 > >> http://www.puryear-it.com > >> > >> Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >> > >> > >> willhill wrote: > >>> I saw this article today: > >>> > >>> > > http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/08/novell_aint_the_bad_guy.html?CMP=OTC-6YE827253101&ATT=Novell+Aint+the+Bad+Guy > > <http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/08/novell_aint_the_bad_guy.html?CMP=OTC-6YE827253101&ATT=Novell+Aint+the+Bad+Guy> > >>> > >>> and have to say that I don't like what Novel is doing. > Software patents are > >>> evil and Novel's endorsement of them is also evil. Any > advantage Novel has > >>> gained by through their deal is odious. GPL3 negates those > advantages and it > >>> will eventually take over all GPL'd work. > >>> > >>> IBM has not really endorsed the deal either. They have also > partnered with > >>> Red Hat and Cononical which have both loudly refused M$'s money > and patent > >>> trap. > >>> > >>> What's more important about IBM's announcement is willingness > to push for a > >>> free world and the good chance they will get there. Just a few > years ago, > >>> that kind of talk would get you branded a "radical" or "zealot" > ... even in > >>> places like a LUG. 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