Then

   2 X 3^2
36

On Monday, September 22, 2014, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Consider using:
>
>    X=:conjunction def 'm +/ .* n'
>
> with a new rule: use X to multiply, instead of asterisk.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Kip Murray <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > My experience was that college calculus students using J in a computer
> lab
> > had difficulty with
> >
> >    2*3+4
> > 14
> >
> > --their TI calculators gave the desired answer 10.  I told them "always
> > parenthesize multiplications, divisions, exponentiations, and f x", but
> > they forgot.
> >
> > I supplied hidden definitions for fn, pi, sin, cos, etc. so that
> >
> >    f =: '(2*y)+4' fn
> >
> > defined what is colloquially called the 2x+4 function.
> >
> > There I went beyond grade school, but the remark about TI calculators
> would
> > apply to grade school.  Children are taught PEMDAS for order of
> operations:
> > Parentheses, Exponentiation, Multiplication, Division, Addition,
> > Subtraction.  I am aware Ken pointed out inadequacies of this rule.  TI's
> > Algebraic Logic System is complicated!
> >
> > On Monday, September 22, 2014, Brian Schott <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> I suspect I have told this tale before, but JHS has renewed my
> enthusiasm
> >> for the results.
> >>
> >> Back in the '80s I was teaching in a brand new computerized classroom
> >> where each student had a computer and the instructor had both the
> computer
> >> and a large display screen. The computers were all linked to a school
> wide
> >> wired network and was administered by the IT department. One of the
> people
> >> in the IT department wrote a special program for me that enabled my
> >> students to anonymously type one-line messages on their own computer and
> >> the results were displayed on the instructor's computer and on the
> >> classroom's large  screen.
> >>
> >> I would ask questions and the students could type their answers with
> >> confidence that others would not know their identity.Their answers were
> >> like today's text messages and did not have any calculation involved.
> From
> >> the front of the classroom I was able to comment on answers and help
> >> students who were having trouble very effectively, I think.
> >>
> >> Wouldn't JHS in a modern classroom enable a similar situation if each
> >> student brings his or her own tablet? And the messages could be typed
> in  J
> >> phrases (even without a graphics result from the likes of plot and
> viewmat)
> >> or in NB.'ed text.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have experience with this?
> >>
> >>
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