I have had some serious frustration installing J804, even in the "default" location. My installation is largely complete, but has triggered this post.
To start over I went to the following link, as a suggested starting point. http://www.jsoftware.com/start.htm That page makes it seem that using J requires 2 step. a)download a system and then follow the install instructions and load J, and then b) "get a quick overview of the language by selecting menu Studio|Labs, and running the first few labs" . Those instructions leave a big gap though, because I assume that jqt is not automatically installed for many operating systems. If not, between the two steps one must install qtide (and maybe pacman). Otherwise, how does someone find the "Studio|Labs" menu? It is in the jqt that has not been installed, and even there it is buried in the "Help" menu. Furthermore, the "Install" instructions are at the following link. http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804 Within the "Overview" subheading at that link is the following quote, which seems to me to be misleading and understated. For example, the phrase, "Some include the", would be better replaced with, "Most exclude the almost essential". "All distributions support Jconsole and JHS. Some include the Qt desktop, which can also be installed separately, see Qt IDE." Shouldn't it also be stated that without that inclusion (slightly different) Labs (and demos) are available differently in other ide's of J such as jhs and jconsole. So, I am acknowledging that things have gotten quite complicated for a new user, and even for a vet like me, to install J on a desktop computer. The versatility of J has created quite a complex installation that needs to be reviewed or discussed, in my opinion. -- (B=) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
