> To start over I went to the following link, as a suggested starting point.
>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/start.htm

Thanks, that page was written some time ago, and needs updating.

The download page points to the up to date instructions, i.e.
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804 .


On 28 June 2015 at 13:07, Brian Schott <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have had some serious frustration installing J804, even in the "default"
> location. My installation is largely complete, but has triggered this post.
>
> To start over I went to the following link, as a suggested starting point.
>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/start.htm
>
> That page makes it seem that using J requires 2 step.
>
> a)download a system and then follow the install instructions and load J,
> and then
>
> b) "get a quick overview of the language by selecting menu Studio|Labs, and
> running the first few labs" .
>
> Those instructions leave a big gap though, because I assume that jqt is not
> automatically installed for many operating systems. If not, between the two
> steps one must install qtide (and maybe pacman). Otherwise, how does
> someone find the "Studio|Labs" menu? It is in the jqt that has not been
> installed, and even there it is buried in the "Help" menu.
>
>
> Furthermore, the "Install" instructions are at the following link.
>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804
>
> Within the "Overview" subheading at that link is the following quote, which
> seems to me to be misleading and understated. For example, the phrase,
> "Some include the", would be better replaced with, "Most exclude the almost
> essential".
>
> "All distributions support Jconsole and JHS. Some include the Qt desktop,
> which can also be installed separately, see Qt IDE."
>
> Shouldn't it also be stated that without that inclusion (slightly
> different) Labs (and demos) are available differently in other ide's of J
> such as jhs and jconsole.
>
> So, I am acknowledging that things have gotten quite complicated for a new
> user, and even for a vet like me, to install J on a desktop computer. The
> versatility  of J has created quite a complex installation that needs to be
> reviewed or discussed, in my opinion.
>
>
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> (B=)
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