Yes Bill, I do use iPad. I don't own an iPhone. I've always thought it's a lousy choice of platform for an IDE. But if enough people are making serious use of j701 on it, then I suppose I shall have to think again.
However I'm poorly placed to attempt more than a codged-up solution. It's already beyond my resources to support iPhone models that can't upgrade to the latest version of iOS. (I've tried.) But at last I begin to understand the problem. Is it widely shared? There's a ray of hope. I'm hi-priority studying how best to port a recognizable TABULA interface to iOS… and there's definitely a market for that. It has a 2x16 icon toolbar. If I can achieve good results with that, then I can use the same technique to cobble-up something resembling the j701 keyboard. On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 05:43, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps you are using iPad. On my iPhone, there is no option to enter > digits in ABC mode. > Also there are no little icons above the top if the keyboard. > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 1:19 PM Ian Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > @ Bill > > > > I wouldn't recommend using those awful extra shift-lock keys like > [.?123], > > [ABC] etc. It's agony to type a number list that way. But I can type: 1 > 2 3 > > easily on my "system keyboard" by never leaving the [ABC] mode. > > > > My system keyboard is shown at: > > > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/iOS#System_Keyboard_.28onscreen.29 > > If you stroke down gently on the "q" key it types: 1 …etc, and you can > then > > use the spacebar in the normal way. > > I think this is called "rocking" the key. > > Likewise all other keys: if you rock it, you get the (grayed-out) symbol > > above the main white symbol. > > > > Are you using a localized keyboard where this interaction is not > possible? > > (Other users: do you share Bill's problem with the absence of the old > j701 > > keyboard?) > > > > I hate the system keyboard, and use a bluetooth keyboard whenever I can. > > (My bt kb only cost me £8 or so.) But I don't deny it's bad UX to be > forced > > to use a keyboard that's different *in the slightest way* from the one > you > > use habitually. > > > > However, because specialized keyboards are such a pain to maintain, and > > incur so many gotchas, I won't prioritize reintroducing the old j701 > > keyboard into j901 for iOS. At least for as long as it is a 1-person > > project. > > > > Meanwhile, I wouldn't discourage anyone from reverting to j701 if they > just > > can't get on with j901. I think Apple are going to keep j701 in App Store > > for now. They were threatening to remove un-maintained apps. So j901 has > > served its purpose, even if it's only been to secure the continued > > availability of j701. > > > > Ian Clark > > > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 04:43, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On iPhone j901, I noticed its keyboard always switched back to alphabet > > > after typing a space after digits, eg to enter the array 1 2 3, > > > I need to type > > > (123)1 (123)2 (123)3 > > > > > > Where (123) is the left bottom 123 key on the keyboard, I think this > is a > > > feature of the iPhone default keyboard. OTOH j701 is easier to type > > > numbers. > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 5:58 AM Ian Clark <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > .d temp > > > > > > > > or, the conventional J way… > > > > > > > > dir 'j/temp' > > > > > > > > (Learn about dot-commands by typing a single dot.) > > > > > > > > The advantage of .d is to give you a list of re-inputtable J > sentences > > in > > > > place of a bald Linux-stye "ls" listing. > > > > (But you may wish to overtype work with see -which outputs the > updated > > > text > > > > to the session.) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 21:46, Richard Donovan <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updates to a script you download from iCloud Drive *are* getting > > > saved. > > > > > > Just not back in iCloud. Try looking in j/temp/ . > > > > > > > > > > How!? > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
