i am not confused:-) the entire incubator is a 'walled sandbox'. if projects 
can grant streamlined karma to sandbox branches to students, why not let 
podlings add committers?

On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Monday 16 August 2010 2:15:32 pm Luciano Resende wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Benson Margulies
>> 
>> <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On committers there is a legal / procedural clarification called for.
>>> Perhaps I'm just dense, but I got the strong impression from the recent
>>> email at members@ that there was much more flexibility possible with
>>> committer status than with releases -- that the iPMC could indeed make a
>>> one-time, blanket, decision, that PPMC votes were sufficient for
>>> committer status. To cite an example to support my position, I'm pretty
>>> sure that GSOC students get commit privileges without formal PMC votes.
>> 
>> Could you clarify on what do you mean by your statement around GSoC
>> Students. GSoC students are and should be tread as any other
>> contributors to a project and should earn committer karma via regular
>> channels (discuss/vote/etc). 
> 
> I think he's confusing getting commit karma on a project and getting an 
> Apache 
> account that would allow commit to a sandbox or similar.  For some projects, 
> we had the students submit a ICLA and we had accounts created that gave them 
> a 
> walled off sandbox to commit their work into rather than have them creating 
> forks or something off at GitHub or similar.   They don't have project commit 
> karma to commit to trunk or branches or anything, just a very walled off 
> sandbox.
> 
> 
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> Daniel Kulp
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