>-----Original Message----- >From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:nic...@hedhman.org] >Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:25 PM >To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer >Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings > >I like Joe's suggestion of having Mentors writing a report. But I >would like the PPMC get some experience as well, since once they >graduate they are tossed into the fire of producing "real" board >reports on their own. > >Possible extension of Joe's suggestion; The PPMC produce the Board >report as if they were a top level project. Mentor produce separately >the "road map to graduation" report, covering what has been done, what >is going on right now and what is left to do. IPMC will quickly see >AWOL Mentors and which podlings need help, without taking away the >"training" of the PPMC...
>From my perspective as a podling PPMC member, I disagree with this approach. >From what I have learned, it is the Incubator's responsibility to develop a >self-sustaining community. IMO, any viable community should be responsible >for managing their own destiny. Mentors should prod, poke, suggest, >influence, coach and verify everything the podling does, but the PPMC should >be responsible for developing and reporting out a graduation roadmap. > > >Cheers >Niclas > >On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >wrote: >> I don't know about you, but in the podlings I mentor I am subscribed >> to most if not all of the mailing lists and try to read the bulk of >> it all. I could easily write status reports for them if it was my >> responsibility to do so, and for the initial 6 months would prefer >> that mentors showed their podlings and their fellow mentors what can >> be done with a properreport before passing that duty along to the PPMC. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings >>> >>> I like the idea of mentors being expected to signoff on the wiki just >>> to show that they are paying attention, but i also agree that it might >>> be useful to have along with the poddling reports to have comments >>> from the mentors. So how about doing both? Just extend the mentor >>> signoff section to include comments so a poddling report is the >>> poddling comments, mentor comments about whats going on and what >>> they'd like to see the poddling doing in the next months and a signoff >>> from all active mentors. >>> >>> Or Joe are you saying that we should scrap the poddling comments bit >>> entirely? I think its useful to get a quick overview of whats going on >>> and it gets them used to the TLP board report requirement. >>> >>> ...ant >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Lame. I would actually like to see mentors WRITING the reports >>>> at least for the first 6 months to a year, then going to sign-off >>>> on the wiki. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: William A. Rowe Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> >>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>>> Cc: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 1:23 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings >>>>> >>>>> On 1/9/2012 11:40 AM, Upayavira wrote: >>>>>> Regarding attrition of mentors, it was discussed having mentors >>>>> 'sign' >>>>>> the board report for their podling. Could that be encouraged, and >>> used >>>>>> as a sign of minimum 'activity' for a mentor? >>>>> >>>>> How about simply sign off on podling-dev@? Even if it is "Thanks >>> for >>>>> drafting this! No edits from me." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > >-- >Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > >I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk >I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j >I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
