On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +0 then > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > > > > On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This still only has 3 committers. > > > > > > How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't > > see that there has been a realistic answer to this question. > > > > It is part of the incubation process to help gain more, and again as a > > tlp, an ongoing process. > > Lots of TLPs have more committers, with only one or two actually active. I too are concerned about the number of committers, but I believe the project should have a chance of showing that it can grow. the revised proposal looks quite a lot better. +1 (binding) rgds jan i > > > > Gav… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com > <javascript:;> > > <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with > > support from: > > > > > > * David Nalley (champion) > > > * Rich Bowen (mentor) > > > * Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor) > > > * Daniel Gruno (mentor) > > > * Marko Rodriguez (submitting on behalf of TinkerPop) > > > > > > We feel it is now in prime shape from submission to vote. Enjoy!. > > > (URL to wiki version: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal>) > > > > > > > > > > > > A. Abstract > > > > > > TinkerPop <http://tinkerpop.com/> is a graph computing framework > > written in Java. A graph < > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_%28mathematics%29> is a data > structure > > composed of vertices and edges and is useful for modeling complex domains > > with arbitrary relations (edges, links, lines) between entities > (vertices, > > objects, dots). TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > > provides a core API that graph system vendors can implement. There are > > various types of graph systems including in-memory graph libraries, OLTP > > graph databases, and OLAP graph processors (see On Graph Computing < > > http://markorodriguez.com/2013/01/09/on-graph-computing/> for more > > information). Once the core interfaces are implemented, the underlying > > graph system can be queried using the graph traversal language Gremlin > and > > processed withTinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop > >-enabled > > algorithms. For many, TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is seen as the JDBC < > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Database_Connectivity> of the graph > > computing community. > > > > > > > > > B. Proposal > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was formed in > > 2009 and is currently in the milestone series of 3.0.0. From the start, > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has provided its > > software open source and free to use for which ever reason (commercial or > > otherwise). Initially the license was BSD, but as of TinkerPop3 < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>, the license was changed > to > > Apache2. The TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > team > > is composed of developers, evangelists, and representatives from graph > > system vendors (see TinkerPop Contributors < > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/#tinkerpop-contributors> > for > > more information). TinkerPop < > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > > has done its best to remain vendor agnostic and works closely with all > > vendors to ensure that the constructs within TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> are able to accommodate the > > requirements of the underlying graph system. To date, 12 "TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> recognized" graph system > > vendors provide TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > > implementations. We believe that by joining The Apache Software > Foundation, > > our vendors, users, and contributors will feel more comfortable in terms > of > > legal protected, in terms of wider-adoption, and in terms of project > > stability. > > > > > > > > > C. Background > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has had > steady, > > active development since 2009 when it was founded. Over the years, the > > Gremlin query language within TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has been adopted by various > > JVM languages and as such, there exists Gremlin-Groovy, Gremlin-Scala, > > Gremlin-Clojure, Gremlin-JavaScript < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaScript>, and the like. In many > > ways, Gremlin is seen as a traversal style that can be readily adopted > > within the programming constructs of the developer's native language --- > > both on and off the JVM. TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is not bound to the JVM in > > that developers wishing to interact with a TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled graph system can > > leverage Gremlin Server which provides "over the wire" communication as > > well as the entry point for non-JVM language bindings. TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is being used is production > > graph-based applications around the world and is only getting better with > > age. > > > > > > > > > D. Rationale > > > > > > The graph computing space has grown over the years to encompass > numerous > > graph database and graph processing systems. TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was created as a unifying > > framework for interoperability, language standardization, and data model > > standardization. This framework makes it simple to "plug and play" the > > back-end graph implementation without affecting the developer's code. > This > > is analogous to the way in which the JDBC allows users to swap relational > > databases while keeping the same programming interface. TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> also brings together OLTP > > systems (graph databases) and OLAP systems (graph processors) by > providing > > a single query language (Gremlin) for executing graph algorithms > > transparently over either type of system. The seamless support of > > single-machine systems and distributed systems provides an identical > > end-user experience within the boundaries of the space and time > constraints > > of the underlying graph system. > > > > > > > > > E. Initial Goals > > > > > > The goal of this proposal is to migrate TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to The Apache Software > > Foundation to > > > > > > get more exposure to the project > > > legally protect the developers and contributors of the project > > > ensure that TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > has > > a vendor-neutral, stable home for the future > > > > > > F. Current Status > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is planning to > > release TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA > < > > http://3.0.0.ga/> early 2015. We would like to release TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA <http://3.0.0.ga/> > > at the Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > G. Meritocracy > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> already has an > > established community that values meritocracy. Anyone is welcome to > > contribute to TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > and > > voice their opinions/thoughts on the direction of the project. If an > > individual provides beneficial pull requests, documentation updates, > > theoretical ideas, etc. then they are asked to join TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as committers. Moreover, > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is a business > > friendly community. It provides a forum where vendors collaborate, via > > individual representatives, by contributing ideas, code and content. > > > > > > We believe the values of the community align well with the ASF, and we > > are willing to adapt our practices when necessary. > > > > > > > > > H. Community > > > > > > The TinkerPop mailing list < > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gremlin-users> has 1500+ > > subscribers with a flow of approximately 10 emails a day. In addition to > > the initial committers there are about two dozen folks that have > > contributed code to the project, and 1/2 of those are from Graph vendors. > > Note that there are individuals that participate in the TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> ecosystem by providing > > language bindings and system implementations. While not contributing to > the > > core codebase per se, they supportTinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> via their software and > > lecture outreach. > > > > > > > > > I. Core developers > > > > > > The initial committer list is small, and we hope to grow that into a > > larger, vibrant community at the Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > > > > J. Alignment > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is licensed > > Apache2. The OLAP reference implementation that distributes with > TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is based on Hadoop < > > http://hadoop.apache.org/> and Giraph <http://giraph.apache.org/>. There > > has been a push from vendors and commercial organizations interested in > > ensuring TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has the > > legal support of a software foundation. We believe The Apache Software > > Foundation to be a great home for TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. > > > > > > > > > K. Known Risks & Abandoned projects > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently > at > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.M6. There > > is a significant amount of code developed since TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s inception. We have done > > our best to secure CLAs from contributors. To date did not have any legal > > or political issues. TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has 12 official graph > > vendors that maintain or support a TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> implementation for their > > system. If, lets say, 75% of those vendors decide against providing a > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> interface, then > > this would be detrimental to TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s efforts. With that, it is > > very important that TinkerPop < > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > > remain neutral and engaged with vendors. > > > > > > > > > L. Inexperience with Open Source > > > > > > The primary developers of TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> have been producing > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> open source code > > and releases in full public view since 2009 via both our GitHub < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub> repository and our public > > mailing lists. We pride ourselves in professional software, > documentation, > > and aesthetics. With its integration to numerous graph systems in the > > market, we see TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> > as > > a masterpiece in the open source space. We are working with both open > > source and commercial entities to ensure a solid, respected product. > > > > > > > > > M. Homogeneous Developers > > > > > > The initial set of committers all hail from different employers. > > > > > > > > > N. Reliance on Salaried Developers > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is open source > > and no individual is paid for their contributions except for our logo > > designer. All the logos and documentation graphics are released Apache2. > > > > > > > > > O. Relationships with Other Apache Projects > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> currently > > leverages Hadoop, Giraph, and in the near future, will integrate with > Spark > > <https://spark.apache.org/>. Internally, the project leverages Maven3, > > Apache Configuration, and Apache Commons. > > > > > > > > > P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is interested > > in The Apache Software Foundation for the legal support and protection it > > can offer our developers. Numerous large software organizations have > urged > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to join a > > foundation so that they may more easily provide contributors from their > > organization and moreover, maintain confidence in building products atop > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. With that said, > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> does respect the > > Apache Software Foundation brand and believes that by joining The Apache > > Software Foundation, we will further boost the recognition and prestige > of > > our product. Finally, note that a TinkerPop book < > > http://www.tinkerpopbook.com/> is slated for 2015. Combining the Apache > > Software Foundation and a long awaited book should ensure a new uptake of > > contributors, users, vendors, and promoters. > > > > > > > > > Q. Documentation > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> takes pride in > > its documentation: > > > > > > AsciiDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsciiDoc> > > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/ < > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/> > > > JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (core) > > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/ < > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/> > > > JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (full) > > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/ < > > http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/> > > > > > > R. Initial Source > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently > > hosted on GitHub <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub>: > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/ <https://github.com/tinkerpop/>. > > > > > > The following repositories would like to be migrated to ASF. > > > > > > TinkerPop3 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3> > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 < > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3> > > > Blueprints (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints < > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints> > > > Pipes (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes <https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes > > > > > Frames (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2> > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames < > https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames > > > > > > Gremlin (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin < > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin> > > > Rexster (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) > > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster < > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster> > > > > > > S. Source & Intellectual Property Submission Plan > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has required > > CLAs from contributors in the past to ensure solid IP provenance. > TinkerPop > > <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> plans to submit a Software > > Grant for the content in the following repositories: > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 < > > https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3> > > > We plan to transfer to the ASF the TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> trademark as well as the > > commissioned artwork for TinkerPop < > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> logos and the > > http://tinkerpop.com <http://tinkerpop.com/> and http://tinkerpop.org < > > http://tinkerpop.org/> domains. > > > > > > > > > T. External Dependencies > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> relies on a > > number of open source dependencies. We believe these to comply with the > > third-party licensing guidelines. If any dependencies are unfit, we will > > make the necessary changes. > > > > > > > > > U. Cryptography > > > > > > None. > > > > > > > > > V. Required Resources > > > > > > > > > W. Mailing Lists > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> requests the > > following mailing list: > > > > > > User Mailing List > > > us...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto: > > us...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > Developer Mailing List > > > d...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto: > > d...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > Private Mailing List > > > priv...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto: > > priv...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > Commits Mailing List > > > comm...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> <mailto: > > comm...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > > > > X. Subversion Directory > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> will use > > subversion for it’s website and requests: > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop < > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop> > > > > > > Y. Git Repository > > > > > > TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> wishes to have > > the following created: > > > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git < > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git> > > > And to have all of these mirrored to Github with integration taken care > > of. > > > > > > > > > Z. Issue Tracking > > > > > > Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code > > review (TINKERPOP). > > > > > > > > > AA. Initial Committers and Affiliations > > > > > > Marko A. Rodriguez (2009) > > > Aurelius > > > Stephen Mallette (2011) > > > Nidomics > > > James Thornton (2013) > > > Electric Speed > > > > > > BB. Sponsors > > > > > > Champion: David Nalley > > > Mentors: Rich Bowen, Matt Franklin, Daniel Gruno, David Nalley, Hadrian > > Zbarcea > > > Sponsoring Entity: We request the Incubator to sponsor this project. > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
