On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > >> On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> This still only has 3 committers. >> >> How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't see >> that there has been a realistic answer to this question. > > It is part of the incubation process to help gain more, and again as a tlp, > an ongoing process. > Lots of TLPs have more committers, with only one or two actually active.
But this is a project that has existed since 2009. If there are only 3 initial committers then where is the rest of the community? Is this a fork? Is there going to be a Trac vs. Bloodhound or OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice community issues. I don't think such would block incubation, but we should be fully aware of it if this is so. Regards, Dave > > Gav… > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com >> <mailto:okramma...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with support >> from: >> >> * David Nalley (champion) >> * Rich Bowen (mentor) >> * Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor) >> * Daniel Gruno (mentor) >> * Marko Rodriguez (submitting on behalf of TinkerPop) >> >> We feel it is now in prime shape from submission to vote. Enjoy!. >> (URL to wiki version: >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPopProposal>) >> >> >> >> A. Abstract >> >> TinkerPop <http://tinkerpop.com/> is a graph computing framework written in >> Java. A graph <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_%28mathematics%29> is a >> data structure composed of vertices and edges and is useful for modeling >> complex domains with arbitrary relations (edges, links, lines) between >> entities (vertices, objects, dots). TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> provides a core API that graph >> system vendors can implement. There are various types of graph systems >> including in-memory graph libraries, OLTP graph databases, and OLAP graph >> processors (see On Graph Computing >> <http://markorodriguez.com/2013/01/09/on-graph-computing/> for more >> information). Once the core interfaces are implemented, the underlying graph >> system can be queried using the graph traversal language Gremlin and >> processed withTinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled algorithms. For many, >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is seen as the JDBC >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Database_Connectivity> of the graph >> computing community. >> >> >> B. Proposal >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was formed in 2009 >> and is currently in the milestone series of 3.0.0. From the start, TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has provided its software open >> source and free to use for which ever reason (commercial or otherwise). >> Initially the license was BSD, but as of TinkerPop3 >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3>, the license was changed to >> Apache2. The TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> team is >> composed of developers, evangelists, and representatives from graph system >> vendors (see TinkerPop Contributors >> <http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/#tinkerpop-contributors> for >> more information). TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> >> has done its best to remain vendor agnostic and works closely with all >> vendors to ensure that the constructs within TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> are able to accommodate the >> requirements of the underlying graph system. To date, 12 "TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> recognized" graph system >> vendors provide TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> >> implementations. We believe that by joining The Apache Software Foundation, >> our vendors, users, and contributors will feel more comfortable in terms of >> legal protected, in terms of wider-adoption, and in terms of project >> stability. >> >> >> C. Background >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has had steady, >> active development since 2009 when it was founded. Over the years, the >> Gremlin query language within TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has been adopted by various >> JVM languages and as such, there exists Gremlin-Groovy, Gremlin-Scala, >> Gremlin-Clojure, Gremlin-JavaScript >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaScript>, and the like. In many ways, >> Gremlin is seen as a traversal style that can be readily adopted within the >> programming constructs of the developer's native language --- both on and >> off the JVM. TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is not >> bound to the JVM in that developers wishing to interact with a TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>-enabled graph system can >> leverage Gremlin Server which provides "over the wire" communication as well >> as the entry point for non-JVM language bindings. TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is being used is production >> graph-based applications around the world and is only getting better with >> age. >> >> >> D. Rationale >> >> The graph computing space has grown over the years to encompass numerous >> graph database and graph processing systems. TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> was created as a unifying >> framework for interoperability, language standardization, and data model >> standardization. This framework makes it simple to "plug and play" the >> back-end graph implementation without affecting the developer's code. This >> is analogous to the way in which the JDBC allows users to swap relational >> databases while keeping the same programming interface. TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> also brings together OLTP >> systems (graph databases) and OLAP systems (graph processors) by providing a >> single query language (Gremlin) for executing graph algorithms transparently >> over either type of system. The seamless support of single-machine systems >> and distributed systems provides an identical end-user experience within the >> boundaries of the space and time constraints of the underlying graph system. >> >> >> E. Initial Goals >> >> The goal of this proposal is to migrate TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to The Apache Software >> Foundation to >> >> get more exposure to the project >> legally protect the developers and contributors of the project >> ensure that TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has a >> vendor-neutral, stable home for the future >> >> F. Current Status >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is planning to >> release TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA >> <http://3.0.0.ga/> early 2015. We would like to release TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.GA <http://3.0.0.ga/> at >> the Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> G. Meritocracy >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> already has an >> established community that values meritocracy. Anyone is welcome to >> contribute to TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> and >> voice their opinions/thoughts on the direction of the project. If an >> individual provides beneficial pull requests, documentation updates, >> theoretical ideas, etc. then they are asked to join TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as committers. Moreover, >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is a business >> friendly community. It provides a forum where vendors collaborate, via >> individual representatives, by contributing ideas, code and content. >> >> We believe the values of the community align well with the ASF, and we are >> willing to adapt our practices when necessary. >> >> >> H. Community >> >> The TinkerPop mailing list >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gremlin-users> has 1500+ >> subscribers with a flow of approximately 10 emails a day. In addition to the >> initial committers there are about two dozen folks that have contributed >> code to the project, and 1/2 of those are from Graph vendors. Note that >> there are individuals that participate in the TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> ecosystem by providing >> language bindings and system implementations. While not contributing to the >> core codebase per se, they supportTinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> via their software and lecture >> outreach. >> >> >> I. Core developers >> >> The initial committer list is small, and we hope to grow that into a larger, >> vibrant community at the Apache Software Foundation. >> >> >> J. Alignment >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is licensed Apache2. >> The OLAP reference implementation that distributes with TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is based on Hadoop >> <http://hadoop.apache.org/> and Giraph <http://giraph.apache.org/>. There >> has been a push from vendors and commercial organizations interested in >> ensuring TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has the >> legal support of a software foundation. We believe The Apache Software >> Foundation to be a great home for TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. >> >> >> K. Known Risks & Abandoned projects >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently at >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> 3.0.0.M6. There is a >> significant amount of code developed since TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s inception. We have done our >> best to secure CLAs from contributors. To date did not have any legal or >> political issues. TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> >> has 12 official graph vendors that maintain or support a TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> implementation for their >> system. If, lets say, 75% of those vendors decide against providing a >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> interface, then this >> would be detrimental to TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>'s efforts. With that, it is >> very important that TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> >> remain neutral and engaged with vendors. >> >> >> L. Inexperience with Open Source >> >> The primary developers of TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> have been producing TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> open source code and releases >> in full public view since 2009 via both our GitHub >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub> repository and our public mailing >> lists. We pride ourselves in professional software, documentation, and >> aesthetics. With its integration to numerous graph systems in the market, we >> see TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> as a masterpiece >> in the open source space. We are working with both open source and >> commercial entities to ensure a solid, respected product. >> >> >> M. Homogeneous Developers >> >> The initial set of committers all hail from different employers. >> >> >> N. Reliance on Salaried Developers >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is open source and >> no individual is paid for their contributions except for our logo designer. >> All the logos and documentation graphics are released Apache2. >> >> >> O. Relationships with Other Apache Projects >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> currently leverages >> Hadoop, Giraph, and in the near future, will integrate with Spark >> <https://spark.apache.org/>. Internally, the project leverages Maven3, >> Apache Configuration, and Apache Commons. >> >> >> P. An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is interested in The >> Apache Software Foundation for the legal support and protection it can offer >> our developers. Numerous large software organizations have urged TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> to join a foundation so that >> they may more easily provide contributors from their organization and >> moreover, maintain confidence in building products atop TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop>. With that said, TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> does respect the Apache >> Software Foundation brand and believes that by joining The Apache Software >> Foundation, we will further boost the recognition and prestige of our >> product. Finally, note that a TinkerPop book <http://www.tinkerpopbook.com/> >> is slated for 2015. Combining the Apache Software Foundation and a long >> awaited book should ensure a new uptake of contributors, users, vendors, and >> promoters. >> >> >> Q. Documentation >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> takes pride in its >> documentation: >> >> AsciiDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AsciiDoc> >> http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/ >> <http://www.tinkerpop.com/docs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/> >> JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (core) >> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/ >> <http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/core/> >> JavaDoc <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/JavaDoc> (full) >> http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/ >> <http://www.tinkerpop.com/javadocs/3.0.0-SNAPSHOT/full/> >> >> R. Initial Source >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> is currently hosted >> on GitHub <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GitHub>: >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/ <https://github.com/tinkerpop/>. >> >> The following repositories would like to be migrated to ASF. >> >> TinkerPop3 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop3> >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 >> <https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3> >> Blueprints (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints >> <https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints> >> Pipes (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes <https://github.com/tinkerpop/pipes> >> Frames (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2> >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames <https://github.com/tinkerpop/frames> >> Gremlin (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin <https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin> >> Rexster (TinkerPop2 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop2>) >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster <https://github.com/tinkerpop/rexster> >> >> S. Source & Intellectual Property Submission Plan >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> has required CLAs >> from contributors in the past to ensure solid IP provenance. TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> plans to submit a Software >> Grant for the content in the following repositories: >> https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3 >> <https://github.com/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3> >> We plan to transfer to the ASF the TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> trademark as well as the >> commissioned artwork for TinkerPop >> <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> logos and the >> http://tinkerpop.com <http://tinkerpop.com/> and http://tinkerpop.org >> <http://tinkerpop.org/> domains. >> >> >> T. External Dependencies >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> relies on a number >> of open source dependencies. We believe these to comply with the third-party >> licensing guidelines. If any dependencies are unfit, we will make the >> necessary changes. >> >> >> U. Cryptography >> >> None. >> >> >> V. Required Resources >> >> >> W. Mailing Lists >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> requests the >> following mailing list: >> >> User Mailing List >> us...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >> <mailto:us...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org> >> Developer Mailing List >> d...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >> <mailto:d...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org> >> Private Mailing List >> priv...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >> <mailto:priv...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org> >> Commits Mailing List >> comm...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org >> <mailto:comm...@tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org> >> >> X. Subversion Directory >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> will use subversion >> for it’s website and requests: >> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop >> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tinkerpop> >> >> Y. Git Repository >> >> TinkerPop <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TinkerPop> wishes to have the >> following created: >> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git >> <https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tinkerpop.git> >> And to have all of these mirrored to Github with integration taken care of. >> >> >> Z. Issue Tracking >> >> Please help us setup a JIRA instance for both issue tracking and code review >> (TINKERPOP). >> >> >> AA. Initial Committers and Affiliations >> >> Marko A. Rodriguez (2009) >> Aurelius >> Stephen Mallette (2011) >> Nidomics >> James Thornton (2013) >> Electric Speed >> >> BB. Sponsors >> >> Champion: David Nalley >> Mentors: Rich Bowen, Matt Franklin, Daniel Gruno, David Nalley, Hadrian >> Zbarcea >> Sponsoring Entity: We request the Incubator to sponsor this project. >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
