Thanks a lot for the input, Leonardo! Great to have you part of the future Apache NetBeans community. :-)
Gj On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Leonardo Loch Zanivan <pang...@gmail.com> wrote: > As a NetBeans community contributor and plugin maker, I'll try to clarify > some points about how plugins work on NetBeans and how they're important. > > 1. Plugins can either upload a binary (NBM) or just an advertisement (with > link to another site) > > 2. Plugins that upload a binary (NBM) can be downloaded by anyone using a > Download button on the website. > > 3. Plugins can be Verified by the NetBeans team members, so they appear on > Update Center from NetBeans IDE. > 3.1. In order to a plugin get verified, it needs to be signed and have a > license. > 3.2. After each major NetBeans release, the plugin needs to be verified > again. > > As you can see, there are more than one method for distributing a plugin, > the easiest one is to upload a binary to plugin portal and directly > distribute to anyone, without need signing or add license file, it's just a > binary repository. > The owner remains the plugin maker and a default license is assigned (I > think). > > AFAIK, there are more than 1000+ NetBeans plugins available, some of them > are very old, but they may work in recent versions of NetBeans (without > verification). > > The thing is, the process of making a plugin or anything else available on > maven central could be tough and complex for many developers and asking for > everyone changing the plugin license is much worse. > > I see the current approach of NetBeans plugins portal with good eyes, but > it could be improved of course, allowing Maven Artifacts for example (need > to check how verification will work in this case). > > Anyway, it appears that plugins.netbeans.org is just a CMS and part of > netbeans.org portal, so I don't see how to move to ASF infrastructure > without bring the plugins part. > > Although, I think the discussion is about the binaries and not the plugins > portal itself, binaries could be hosted anywhere with help of a third party > company. > > BTW I'm a outsider (non Oracle), so I don't know nothing about > infrastructure perspective. > > Regards, > Leonardo Zanivan > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:22 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > >> >>> ...SIR03 Migration of plugin publication system, > plugins.netbeans.org, > >> to Apache infrastructure > >> > > >> > This looks to be an interesting. Are the plugins gated by license? Any > >> > vetting going on? Is there a history of DMCA requests being served by > >> > things uploaded to plugins.nb.o? How much bandwidth does this site > >> > consume? Are their folks who can maintain this site from bare metal up > >> > in the project?... > >> > >> The plugins.netbeans.org site says "plugins provided by community > >> members and third-party companies" so I doubt Oracle has the rights to > >> donate all that code to us. Sorry that we missed that during the > >> proposal preparation phase. > >> > >> If that's correct I would suggest keeping the plugins.netbeans.org > >> migration out of the incubation proposal, and letting Apache NetBeans > >> handle that later. That might just be suggesting to move that code to > >> GitHub and creating an alternate plugin installation mechanism that > >> grabs whatever it needs there. > >> > >> It looks like those plugins are clearly "code associated with an > >> Apache project" once NetBeans migrates to the ASF, but code that > >> probably shouldn't belong to the ASF. > >> > >> Owners of specific plugins will still be able to donate them as well, > >> separately, once Apache NetBeans is established, via our IP clearance > >> mechanism, http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ > >> > >> -Bertrand > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> >
