Geertjan, That sounds like a very nice and workable plan.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2016, at 23:22, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > It really is impossible for us to follow all the (in many cases > contradictory) advice we have been given re the initial contributors list. > > Here's what I propose: > > 1. We make the initial contributors list as detailed as we can, i.e., I > have already started doing this, grouping individual contributors in > specific categories and also indicating which ones have contributed in the > past, in most cases the recent past, i.e., these are the ones with most > direct skills who are likely to begin contributing as soon as possible. > Yes, most of these are from Oracle, which makes sense since we're moving to > Apache precisely in order to open up the governance model so that more can > participate. > 2. When in doubt, we will follow the advice of our mentors over the advice > of those who are not our mentors. > 3. We will show in the initial contributors list what each of the initial > contributors is planning to contribute, as concretely as possible, to show > that we have a list of contributors who really want to and are planning to > contribute as soon as they're able to do so. > 4. I don't believe anyone will fork NetBeans for not being on the initial > contributors list nor do I believe that anyone will want to be on the > initial contributors list as some kind of desire for status -- everyone on > the list is known in one way or another in the community or has worked on > NetBeans for years from within Oracle. These are all people who are > committed to NetBeans and to its future in Apache. > 5. At the end of incubation, we will go through the list very thoroughly. > Anyone who has not contributed will be contacted to confirm that they'd > like to be removed from the list before we become a TPL. I see no problems > in that regard, I'm sure people who don't end up committing will have no > problem being removed from the list at that stage and being voted in again > if/when they change their mind later. > > Hope the above works for everyone and thanks everyone for all the energy > everyone is putting into this process. > > Thanks, > > Geertjan > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > wrote: > >> toki wrote on 9/24/16 8:04 PM: >>>> On 22/09/2016 05:18, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>>> had a non-trivial amount of commits to then Sun NetBeans between >> 2002-2008. He then drifted away from the >>>> project but would be interested, potentially, re-engaging. >>> >>> Is it possible to create a "master list' of everybody who has >>> contributed, when they contributed, and roughly how much they >> contributed? >>> >>> If so, then: >>> * send everybody on that list an ICLA to fill out and return; >>> * Include that list as an appendix to the Incubation Paperwork. Call it >>> _Individuals who, on request will be considered to be part of the >>> Initial Committer List_, once the appropriate paperwork has been signed >>> and submitted; >>> * The _Initial Committer List_ consists of people who have signed and >>> submitted the appropriate paperwork, and requested to be on the list; >> >> My advice is to leave the initial committer list as-is, and then wait to >> see who actually shows up to do work on the project during the >> incubation process. >> >> Part of what the IPMC looks for during incubation is can the podling >> community self-govern, a large part of which is voting in new committers >> in an appropriate fashion. >> >> Separately, when a podling is ready to graduate, and the IPMC votes to >> recommend graduation to the board, the actual committer and PMC lists >> for the top level project sometimes change versus the whole committer >> list during incubation. People who never show up to actually work on >> the podling probably should not be left on the committer list for the >> future top level project. >> >> - Shane >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
