I don't understand the desire to use a closed-source, proprietary, locked-down walled-garden application like Slack to begin with. Why not use one of the several open-source look-a-like versions that are available? Or use Gitter, which is about to go Open Source[1].
[1]: https://venturebeat.com/2017/03/15/gitlab-acquires-software-chat-startup-gitter-will-open-source-the-code/ Phil This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > The 90 member thing is really odd to me. I think you should write Slack help > to ask for details about your issue. The agreement does mention invites where > people don’t accept, and too many of those, could reduce your ability to add > more members, but this has been really rare in my experience, and we have way > more for NetBeans, and other than perhaps 10 people, our over 300+ members > were self invited using https://netbeans.signup.team/ > <https://netbeans.signup.team/> Too, before I set all this up, one of the > questions I specifically asked Slack was related to limitations, members, etc > as it was a worry for us, and they said there is no real limit on the number > of members, but did mention the message limits on logging etc, and directed > us to setup a log bot while taking our request for some other OSS > subscription models. > > Hope it helps, > > Wade > > > >> On Mar 27, 2017, at 01:37, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: >> >> Yes, but they will be member anyway, so it won't change the limit we have >> today (90), right ? >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> On 03/27/2017 06:56 AM, Yaniv Rodenski wrote: >>> Hi JB, >>> >>> A common practice/hack is to create a small web app that allows people to >>> send themselves invitations using the Slack API. >>> For example: >>> http://www.skill-space.com/blog/2015/11/16/create-an-auto-invite-channel-using-slack-heroku1 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Yaniv >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 3:40 pm, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Wade, >>>> >>>> You are right: invite people on Slack means adding them as member. >>>> >>>> However, how can we accept Slack participants without inviting them ? Is it >>>> possible ? >>>> >>>> Thanks ! >>>> Regards >>>> JB >>>> >>>> On 03/26/2017 07:05 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: >>>>> My understanding is there isn’t a max limit on Slack for users for free, >>>> and I have confirmed this with Slack there is not supposed to be a >>>> limitation on numbers of members. NetBeans for instance has 320 members. >>>> Did someone tell you this or did you run into some issue? If so, you might >>>> write them to ask what is the deal.. It could be the difference in setup; >>>> we use a registration page which sends invitations >>>> https://netbeans.signup.team/ <https://netbeans.signup.team/> and is >>>> using bots from https://stacktodo.com/ <https://stacktodo.com/> Or, it >>>> could be something about when it was setup and differences in plans over >>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn’t change the limits on the log and file storage, but we explain >>>> to folks it is for ephemeral real time communication and never to be >>>> considered historic, but we are looking into setting up a log bot which >>>> Slack personnel told us could also be helpful for OSS use. Slack said they >>>> don’t have plans for more features for OSS specific projects at the moment >>>> as one request from us was they make some new individual/personal low pay >>>> option which could help communities with dedicated membership to pay for >>>> their own personal use, but they said no plans at this time, but would take >>>> it into consideration as an idea. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Wade >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 01:58, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Slack is very convenient for quick communication, but clearly, it >>>> doesn't change that the mailing list is the first communication channel. If >>>> discussions happen on Slack, minute notes/discussion has to be forwarded on >>>> the mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if we plan to ask for some "pro" Slack account for Apache >>>> projects (as we have license for IntelliJ for example). Now, at Apache >>>> Beam, we reached the max capacity of the Slack free version (90 Slack users >>>> on Beam channel and limited history). We already received new member >>>> request that we can't accept for now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> JB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/22/2017 10:37 PM, Craig Russell wrote: >>>>>>> Hi James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a pretty extensive discussion on the netbeans dev list. I’d >>>> encourage you to review this thread https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ >>>> 2dce365d03334c82d31b12c8b3dcad1a925a2f71af75658b8d8a5a07@% >>>> 3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can get all of the messages in the thread by doing a quick search >>>> for “slack” on the d...@netbeans.apache.org list in lists.apache.org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My takeaway is that Slack not a substitute for email. But it is useful >>>> for ping-pong communication when people are in the heat of development. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But no decisions are made on Slack, and any discussion there (aside >>>> from “add a semicolon there” and “let’s get lunch") needs to be brought >>>> back to the dev list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The underlying principle is that “if it didn’t happen on dev, then it >>>> didn’t happen”. We strive for open, inclusive communications at Apache and >>>> that means attempting to encourage participation by everyone who wants to, >>>> regardless of primary language, time zone, and availability of tools. (We >>>> assume everyone has a device that handles email clients). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Craig >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 1:27 PM, James Bognar <jamesbog...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can someone remind me? I thought there was a discussion a couple of >>>> months >>>>>>>> ago about allowing incubator projects to use Slack for >>>> communication. What >>>>>>>> was the final decision? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Craig L Russell >>>>>>> c...@apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >>>> jbono...@apache.org >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> jbono...@apache.org >> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
