On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 05:15, Ross Gardler <rgard...@outlook.com> wrote: > > Just like so many things, this is how it used to be. In fact, back in the day > the only time the IPMC was asked to vote was when there were not enough > mentor votes. > > If you look at all the podlinga I've mentored I have only ever asked for an > IPMC vote on two occasions (that I recall). One because I had absent mentors > (the project never graduated due to lack of success as a community) and one > because it was a very large and complex code base and we asked for extra eyes > on the first release. > > Every other time the community worked with mentors. Once we had the votes we > notified the IPMC that the vote had passed and moved on. > > Requiring an IPMC vote is akin to the board voting on all TLP releases. It > should be stopped. The IPMC are facilitators not gate keepers.
I'm not sure that is a correct analogy. IMO the Incubator is the PMC for all its podlings. I think it's more akin to Commons where each component tends to be worked on by a few developers, but the whole PMC participates in votes. > Individual IPMC members can join the podling communities if they wish to > participate. Why are podlings and mentors answering to the IPMC by default? > > I know the standard answer is because mentors sometimes get too busy. Sure. > If it happens every release is a problem and having to ask for an IPMC vote > highlights the problem. > > I realize this proposal does not go this far, I'm +0 for the proposal as a > step in the right direction, but it doesn't go far enough in my opinion. > > Ross > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 8:30:35 PM > To: Incubator > Subject: [DISCUSS] Mentors SHOULD vote on podling releases prior to asking > IPMC to vote > > This is a proposal to recommend that all Mentors SHOULD vote on podling > releases prior to sending the release for a vote to the IPMC. > > This is not a MUST, since there are many good reasons why a mentor might be > unable to perform the checks needed to vote. We are volunteers after all. > > But if this proposal is adopted, it will minimize the occurrences of a > podling desperately asking for someone, anyone, on the IPMC to please vote. > > It should also minimize the number of podling releases that are shot down in > the full IPMC vote because of something that a Mentor is likely to catch. > > Thanks for your consideration, > > Craig > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
