Thanks all of you,both for doubt and clarification that make the proposal 
clear, and that's the point of the discussion about "Incubating Proposal of 
Shenyu".
As a supplement to xiaoyu's thread, I and tuohai666 as the mentor of more than 
40 contributors in Shenyu/Soul project, teaching them for this project and 
launch three activities for soul community with hundreds of people participated.


All 166 contributors are as follow:
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soul % git summary
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At 2021-04-15 23:11:13, "kezhenxu94" <kezhenx...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hi Xiaoyu, thanks for clarifying.
>
>I expressed my doubt about the initial committers as it is a step prior to the 
>voting process, namely “refining the initial committers”. The reason why I 
>raised it is that I just hope you won’t miss anyone who had contributed much 
>to the project, for those who you listed as initial committers, I definitely 
>believe that they contributed to the project in many kinds of aspects beyond 
>the code commits so feel free to add them back. Anyway, your clarification 
>makes sense to me.
>
>As for the contributors and known users, I didn’t mean to state the IP, I just 
>want to make sure that the community (contributors and users) are correctly 
>belonging to the project which is being proposed so that reviewers can have a 
>better idea whether it has risks during incubation. Your clarification also 
>makes sense to me. And it would be helpful to mention this (the links only 
>count the Shenyu project) in the proposal as well so that reviewers are aware 
>of this. 
>
>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 22:10, Yu Xiao <xia...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi kezhenxu94 and Kris Calvin
>> 
>> I'm Xiaoyu founded this project in 2018. Firstly, thank you very much for
>> your comments.
>> 
>> For why they would be the initial committers:
>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=tuohai666
>>> [3] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=kimmking
>> 
>> 1. As Dromara.org core members, they are active in running the community
>> activities: https://dromara.org/activities. serving as mentors for many
>> people to enjoy open source and join our community.
>> 
>>> [2] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=dmsolr
>> 
>> After our discussion he will be removed from initial committers list.
>> 
>> For why they would not be initial committers:
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SteNicholas
>> 
>> SteNicholas contribute to soul-admin in 2018, his code refactoring had been
>> completed, and he does not join community any more.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Asxing
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=lw1243925457
>> 
>> After our discussion Asxing and lw1243925457 will be added to initial
>> committers list.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=huangxfchn
>> 
>> I am the mentor of huangxfchn, but now he doesn't have time to help with
>> the project, and we welcome him back when he is free.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SaberSola
>> 
>> He is Lei Zhang who already exists in initial committers list.
>> 
>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Technoboy-
>> 
>> He contributed only 357 lines of code, not enough, welcome his further
>> contributions.
>> 
>> Finally:
>> 
>> 1. PPMC members will consider nominating them as committers after enter the
>> incubator.
>> 
>> 2. Our project is growing very quickly, and there will be a lot of tasks
>> and community work ahead, there will be important work for them.
>> 
>>> [5] https://dromara.org/awesome/#contributors
>>> [6] https://dromara.org/awesome/#knownusers
>> 
>> 1. We only counted the Soul project, not include the other projects.
>> 2. When join the ASF incubator, we will clean IP, in order to ensure the
>> apache way.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> xiaoyu(xia...@apache.org)
>> 
>> Kris Calvin <k...@apache.org> 于2021年4月15日周四 下午9:06写道:
>> 
>>> I have the same question about this. I’m not sure what the criteria of the
>>> initial committers of the project are. Maybe they have contributed to the
>>> project in other ways, but as Zhenxu said, the contributors in [4] The
>>> contribution is visible to everyone. I don’t know why they are not
>>> considered as initial submitters. In my opinion, initial submitters need
>>> some in-depth understanding of the project. They will participate in
>>> project discussions, PR reviews, and RoadMap. And these contributors in [4]
>>> are undoubtedly your best choice.
>>> 
>>> Maintain an open and equal attitude towards all contributors, so that the
>>> community will have continuous vitality.
>>> 
>>> You can refer to the following articles, which can help you better develop
>>> projects and build your community. Similarly, it is also recommended that
>>> you learn more about the Apache Way.
>>> 
>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>>> 
>>> kezhenxu94 <kezhenx...@apache.org> 于2021年4月15日周四 下午5:58写道:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, this looks to me a good project for incubation, while at the same
>>> time
>>>> I am curious about the selection of initial committers. From the git
>>> log, I
>>>> can see the contributions of some of the initial committers are trivial
>>>> (IMO) such as, code style (~70 LOC) [1] , minor code polishing (686 LOC)
>>>> [2], minor code refactor and minor doc (23 LOC) [3], while the
>>> contributors
>>>> contributed features and bug fixes (1000+ LOC) are not listed as initial
>>>> committers [4]? Any reason not to invite those into initial committers
>>> team?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, this discussion is only targeting Shenyu, that said, only Shenyu
>>>> will in donated / incubated in ASF, but the link to contributors [5] and
>>>> the link to known users [6] include all components from the org
>>> (Dromara),
>>>> which is misleading.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=tuohai666
>>>> [2] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=dmsolr
>>>> [3] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=kimmking
>>>> 
>>>> [4] https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SteNicholas
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Asxing
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=huangxfchn
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=lw1243925457
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=SaberSola
>>>> https://github.com/dromara/soul/commits?author=Technoboy-
>>>> 
>>>> [5] https://dromara.org/awesome/#contributors
>>>> [6] https://dromara.org/awesome/#knownusers
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2021, at 00:11, Lidong Dai <dailidon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> sorry for misuse of Apache DolphinScheduler as my mail name. correct it
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
>>>>> Lidong Dai
>>>>> dailidon...@gmail.com
>>>>> ---------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:58 PM Apache DolphinScheduler <
>>>>>> dailidon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> DolphinScheduler PMC
>>>>>> Lidong Dai
>>>>>> dailidon...@gmail.com
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 5:28 PM Goson zhang <gosonzh...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 (no binding)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> jincheng sun <sunjincheng...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月13日周二 上午10:32写道:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Jincheng
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <panj...@apache.org> 于2021年4月12日周一 下午7:55写道:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Welcome, looks many people are interested in this project.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: panj...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 04/12/2021 10:46,Liu Ted<tedl...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ted Liu
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 在 2021 年 4月 月 12 日週一,時間:9:14 , Kevin A. McGrail <
>>> kmcgr...@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 寫道:   +1 binding and good luck!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 21:08 Zhang Yonglun <zhangyong...@apache.org
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I had also invited Justin Mclean to be our mentor. Now he's
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Mentors list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zhang Yonglun
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月11日周日 下午11:26写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good to see you are ready for this proposal.
>>>>>>>>> Good luck!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月11日周日 下午10:42写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Atric
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the kindly offer.
>>>>>>>>> I just added you to the mentor list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 9:24 PM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please include me in mentors list if required.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 18:42 Kevin Ratnasekera, <
>>>>>>>>> djkevincr1...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) Please count me in if you consider adding further
>>>>>>>>> mentors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:20 PM Willem Jiang <
>>>>>>>>> willem.ji...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ShenYu (神禹) project is developed by the Dromara[1] community.
>>>>>>>>> ShenYu
>>>>>>>>> is a high performance Microservices API gateway in the Java
>>>>>>>>> ecosystem,
>>>>>>>>> compatible with a variety of mainstream framework systems,
>>>>>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>> hot plug extenstion. Users can write their own plugin to meet the
>>>>>>>>> current requirement and future needs in a variety of scenarios,
>>>>>>>>> especially in large-scale scenes.
>>>>>>>>> Recently the Dromara community decided to donate the project
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Software Foundation[2].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As the Champion of ShenYu, I'd like to bring your attention to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> proposal of ShenYu [3] for Incubation in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please note that the Shenyu project was named Soul before, but we
>>>>>>>>> decided to rename the project because of the trademark issue. You
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> find the original project web page here[4].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1]https://github.com/dromara/
>>>>>>>>> [2]https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1247
>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenyuProposal
>>>>>>>>> [4]https://dromara.org/projects/soul/overview/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best  wishes!
>>> CalvinKirs
>>> 

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