Peter Donald wrote:
>
> yer well whatever. Illusions can be grand, I guess reality you
> will have to learn  through error.

I am a father of 2, and I believe three things:

1) Struts/Taglibs, Avalon, and Turbine are 1, 2, and 3 years ahead of these
new subprojects.

2) Some things can't be taught, but must be learned.

3) Sometimes kids do the darnest things - including being right when you
least expect it.

> Good luck.

+1

- Sam Ruby


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