Peter Donald wrote:
>
> At 07:59 23/3/01 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >Alex Fernández wrote:
> >> So, in a word, we don't need components that integrate with each other;
> >> we need components that need no integration at all. Perhaps we would be
> >> better off with a framework; but that's not what we think.
> >
> >My better judgement tells me to dare not suggest how getting a common
> >configuration pattern for the components might be realized, as I am sure
> >it will bring howls of derision and scorn regarding central control and
> >big brother.
If my stock market guesses were only as accurate.... this one came true
in about 12 seconds...
> >
> >However, this is a really good point and a discussion we should have in
> >Commons-land. Please come and join if interested.
>
> yes and after that you really should standardize on logging. Oh and then
> standardize on lifecycle because thats important too.
Not really sure a bean utility library/component will need lifecycle and
logging, nor configuration for that matter, but hey!, if you feel
strongly about it, come participate.
A Database Connection Pool is another story, but we can look a the
17,000 or so implementations already in Jakarta and find the best
practice, and then punt and use log4j :)
> Wait you have Avalon
What is Avalon again? Framework? independant components? Framework of
independant components? Independant framework of components?
Componentized framework independance?
> ! How long do you think before my final prediction bears true? If already
> you are talking about "standardisation" when that was explicitly one of the
> non-goals then ...
With this kind of FUD, you should have been in software marketing :)
I wasn't suggesting that we should *standardize* on anything, but rather
*discuss* how something like this can be realized since it appears to be
an important issue if we want to succeed in our goal, which is sharable
components, and a place for cross-project collaboration.
I am not interested in forcing things down anyones throat. I tend to
want to do my own thing most of the time as well, but sometimes, just
sometimes, it's good to conform if it leads to a greater good.
There seem to be *plenty* of things that are standardized and
successful. The java API, for example. (Can you imagine if we all had
to roll our own 'int'?) Household electricity. The alchoholic content
of beer...
geir
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