At 08:16 12/4/01 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
>If you accept that you are in a world where interfaces that you are
>depending on change frequently, then the problem to solve is optimizing the
>communication paths.
>
>I don't accept that reality.
>
>I bet that 98% of the servlets out there would compile just fine against a
>version of servlet.jar that was built two years ago. I bet that 98% of
>these servlets will compile just fine against the version of servlet.jar
>that will be built two years from now.
>
>The same can not be said for applications which depend on avalon or
>turbine. Not two years, not one year, not six months, not three months.
>Heck, I doubt that 98% of the applications which depend on turbine would
>compile against the version of turbine that WAS BUILT LAST NIGHT.
Welcome to opensource! Standards are not done here - we can implement them
but we don't build them - for those please go elsewhere
(IETF/W3C/JCP/Other). One of the advantages of opensource is people are
free to adapt them to their own environments. Hence they do. If you want
static versions go buy something from a major vendor. Even those generally
do complete changes every major version (see MS and their DX1-8 or MFC
versions).
>Gump doesn't solve these problems. Peter Donald has outsmarted it.
I haven't outsmarted it. I solved the problem that was presented. You have
failed to pose any other problem that would make me adjust my position - I
want low cost of entry.
Have a look at all the projects under apache umbrella. Now rate the
activity of each project excluding people who get paid to directly work on
products. Now correlate this with cost of entry (of which jars in CVS is a
factor). Excluding ant for the moment what do you see? ... Which ones have
more community behind them? Which ones store binaries in CVS? Coincidence?? ;)
The exception of course is Ant - it only stores the absolute minimum jars
in CVS. It is still popular to developers though partially out of necessity
and partially because the excluded jars are non-essentials.
Cheers,
Pete
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