At 00:55 05.01.2002 +1100, you wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:04, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>> 1) Elect a PMC with real power, power to intervene and take painful
>> decisions, until the next elections.
>
>-1 power would be abused and misused. If power is what you want you are not 
>going to get it by donning a skippy badge but earning it through respect. 

Power can and is abused. Knives can and do cut through flesh. Knives can 
also be used to cut bread. I have no problem delegating legislative power 
to the members of parliament as long as its members were elected for a 
limited length term in fair and square elections.

>> 2) Instate a system based on referendum, where the public can directly
>> intervene in making laws. By "public", I mean developers with commit
>> rights.
>
>yay - popularity contests! That would be sooooooo much fun.

Who is talking about popularity contest? What popularity contest?

>> To avoid keeping voting on the same issue time and again, a wait
>> period of 12 months is necessary between two referenda on the same
>> or nearly the same issue.
>
>And maybe we should elect a committee to determine whether issues are too 
>similar and they can break apart into sub-committees to determine the 
>viability of holding a referendum to determine if two issues are dissimilar 
>enough that another referendum could be held for the issue.

Laugh all you want. Referenda are great. Ask any Swiss citizen. 

>> 3) Keeps things as they are and hope for the best.

>things as they are are for the best. People do things because they see that 
>it is the "right" thing to do for them - which usually means it is 
>technically the right thing. Sometimes it takes time (it took me 1.5 years to 
>convince one apache person of something) but most things work out better in 
>the end. 
>
>At times it is infuriating when someone else is doing something stupid but 
>forcing them to change is not the answer - for one you may be wrong, if not 
>you are probably going to cause resentment - not something healthy for the 
>community.

I really don't like paying taxes but I do. I would be great to live in 
the Bahamas, drink cocktails and fornicate day in day out.


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