Hi

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>Here's a concrete example to illustrate the issue: I've always been under
>the assumption that at some point a few people in Jakarta land would take a
>sustained interest in contributing code to Gump, at which point, I would
>propose it to be a formal subproject.  At the present time, it looks like
>there is a greater possibility of interest of contributing by people in XML
>land.  This lead to a bit of soul searching, and I came to conclusion that
>if that were to come to pass, I would follow the community.  After all,
>what does it really matter whether the code is jakarta-gump or
>xml-whatever?

Yep it matters because that's mixing of concerns. As an Avalon Committer I 
only say three words: Separation of Concerns :-)!

Beside there is lot of "inoffical" co-operation. Look at Cocoon and Avalon.
Devs in this project are working close together in technical issues though
the project aim is completly different.

I think you should leave the current diversification. Otherwise I see the 
danger that the xml-apache group is forced completely towards Java. But
that's not the aim of XML!

And when we soften Jakarta so that C++ (personally nothing against C)
servers could be possible as subprojects or whatever then we even 
could put everything under www.apache.org and in one mailing list ;)!

I know it's hard for us, but try to think as a guy from a entprise 
sales group ;-).

Just thoughts!

  Gerhard


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