I am 100% for that.

Even because:
 - How server specific is Ant?
 - And BCEL?
 - And Log4J?
 - And ORO?
 - And Regexp?
 - And Xerces?
 - And commons collections, DBCP, Beanutils...

And I could push it a bit more.

Of course that they are useful to build server stuff... as they could be
useful to build client stuff, which is exactly what happens with POI!


I think the QUALITY distinction is much more important than the server
issue and that should probably be formalized.

For me the important arguments being presented are those going on between
Stefano and Jon - if there is enough commitment and support for it.
(IMO Stefano record looks great. It only makes it better that he knows 
how and to whom to delegate responsibilities.)


Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:14 PM
> 
> 
> Sam Ruby wrote:
> > P.S.  Food for thought: wouldn't it be nice if we could somehow 
> merge xml
> > and Jakarta?  Then discussions as to where POI should go would be moot.
> > Gump doesn't care about these arbitrary distinctions, why should we?
> 
> The thing with XML is that core products like Xerces are cross-platform.
> I'm not sure if I'm ready for the equation 
> 
> Jakarta != Java
> 
> Thinking about it more carefully, I would venture to say that POI (along
> with Battick, FOP, and Xang) may belong under Jakarta. 
> 
> But I'm not sure that we want to say that Jakarta != Java or XML==Java.
> 
> I do think it might be helpful to drop the "server" stipulation from the
> Jakarta charter. I realized that we are all born of the HTTPD Apache
> server, but I think the ASF is growing past that. Jakarta should be
> about the development of open source products on the Java platform. And
> the ASF should be about promoting meritocratic development, regardless
> of what it has any ties to the Apache HTTPD.
> 
> This coincides nicely with the other ASF projects, which are also based
> around given languages, like PHP. 
> 
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
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