Jon wrote:

> > Wasn't this entire thing
> > about community building? So what do we really want: using
> technology we
> > invented on our own, alienating possible new users, or sticking to
> > common standards?
>
> Using technology that is well supported, developed by a
> community of people
> who are not motivated by commercial or academic interests
> (instead, motived
> by real world requirements).
>
> Heck, I bet you haven't even tried DVSL, so don't knock it
> until you try it.

Granted: I use XSLT and am able to live with it. Nothing to be ashamed
of, I guess. I've briefly looked into DVSL when Maven was gathering
momentum, and it was not the kind of quantum-leap technology that would
change my judgement on XSLT.

My point is that projects are being attacked here *solely* because they
prefer XSLT instead of DVSL. I'm perfectly happy when people don't like
XSLT and scratch their own itches, but I do find it quite
counterproductive when projects are considered to be less 'cool' when
they prefer to use standards above home-brown solutions. I'm afraid I
really don't want to know your opinion on Xalan and Cocoon, then :-)

You know what? Java isn't open source, neither, and lots of academic
work goes into that commercial language, too :-)

Oh well, perhaps this might become more productive if you start to
explain me what I need to do to create a Forrest plugin for Maven.

</Steven>


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