Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 5/1/02 11:58 PM, "Steven Noels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Which basically boils down to "let's just invent our own little language
>>and try to get enough people bragging about it"
> 
> 
> It isn't a little language... It is Velocity templates using a well
> known/used API (DOM4J).

Language != technology.

DOM4J is technology.  THe DVSL markup is language.  It just so happens
that you use DOM4J in the parts where you change things--but DVSL is
where you mark what you change and when.



> Just like there are more JSP users than Velocity users.
> 
> Still doesn't mean that JSP is better than Velocity.

And it doesn't mean that Velocity is better than JSP.  I personally am
not a JSP fan, but different tools for different fools.  Quit comparing
apples and oranges.  Let's get back to your thought provoking posts.

> 
> 
> Using technology that is well supported, developed by a community of people
> who are not motivated by commercial or academic interests (instead, motived
> by real world requirements).
> 
> Heck, I bet you haven't even tried DVSL, so don't knock it until you try it.
> 

I haven't had a need to.  If I can do everything I need outside of DVSL,
using standard technologies that can be used in other settings, what
incentive do I have?  Besides Xalan is an Apache project, as is Xerces.
We use them.  So how is that *not* using a technology that is *well*
supported.

As to your assertation that commercial or academic interests are not
valid motivations, you forget that they *are* real world requirements.
In fact I would assert that development efforts not originated in some
way by commercial or academic needs are efforts that are done for the
sake of doing them.

We have to eat.  I eat because I program.  I use Apache products because
they are better than many commercial products for the same purpose, and
because I can convince my managers that we can build our solutions with
them.

But I degress...


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