Hi all,

[from a previous thread on a previous list]

> Morgan Delagrange wrote:
> 
> > I don't know if I've yet achieved the status of a
> > "long-term [committer] who have earned the right
> to
> > set Apache-wide policies" [...]

However, there's no time like the present to find out.
 Roy Fielding has suggested that not enough Jakarta
members seek membership in the ASF.  Until recently, I
was quite happy plugging along in my little Jakarta
world, developing software and trusting the Apache
world to continue onward as it has.  

However, recent events have shown me that my view may
be too narrow.  One specific example (sorry if you
subscribe to the reorg list, as this is repetition of
threads there): a top-level Apache project with the
same name and similar scope as a Jakarta subproject
can be proposed, discussed and approved (including a
PMC) without ever being mentioned on a list to which I
can subscribe.  This week, a mailing list was formed
to try to alleviate some of these communication
deficiencies, but in the words of a former U.S.
president, "trust, yet verify".

So my specific goal in seeking ASF membership is to
look inside the black box.  I already know that
important decisions can be made that are hidden from
the view of most committers.  I'd like to know more
about the process, and hopefully help to make these
decisions more open and transparent to committers at
large; at present a very small percentage of Jakarta
members are actually ASF members.  Likewise, I
encourage other Jakarta committers to consider seeking
ASF membership if they are also concerned about
representation and the decision-making process.  The
Board seems very interested in increasing our numbers
in the ASF membership, and I think we should take them
up on this opportunity.

Specifically, I'd like to ask a member of our PMC or
any current ASF member to sponsor my membership.,
Unfortunately I will probably not be able to attend
the next Foundation meeting, and so I'd also ask that
my sponsor act as my proxy, if possible.

If I understand this process correctly, if I am
nominated, I fill out an application form and it's
discussed on the private "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing
list until a decision spits out.  I guess I won't be
gaining any insight into the admission process at
first.  :)

- Morgan

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Morgan Delagrange
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
http://axion.tigris.org
http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog

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