If we're expected to nominate ourselves as such, it'd be nice to have some guidelines as to what we should be looking at in our day-to-day Apache goings on to know that the time has come. So we don't look like young punks :)
Hen On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > Hi all, > > [from a previous thread on a previous list] > > > Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > > > > I don't know if I've yet achieved the status of a > > > "long-term [committer] who have earned the right > > to > > > set Apache-wide policies" [...] > > However, there's no time like the present to find out. > Roy Fielding has suggested that not enough Jakarta > members seek membership in the ASF. Until recently, I > was quite happy plugging along in my little Jakarta > world, developing software and trusting the Apache > world to continue onward as it has. > > However, recent events have shown me that my view may > be too narrow. One specific example (sorry if you > subscribe to the reorg list, as this is repetition of > threads there): a top-level Apache project with the > same name and similar scope as a Jakarta subproject > can be proposed, discussed and approved (including a > PMC) without ever being mentioned on a list to which I > can subscribe. This week, a mailing list was formed > to try to alleviate some of these communication > deficiencies, but in the words of a former U.S. > president, "trust, yet verify". > > So my specific goal in seeking ASF membership is to > look inside the black box. I already know that > important decisions can be made that are hidden from > the view of most committers. I'd like to know more > about the process, and hopefully help to make these > decisions more open and transparent to committers at > large; at present a very small percentage of Jakarta > members are actually ASF members. Likewise, I > encourage other Jakarta committers to consider seeking > ASF membership if they are also concerned about > representation and the decision-making process. The > Board seems very interested in increasing our numbers > in the ASF membership, and I think we should take them > up on this opportunity. > > Specifically, I'd like to ask a member of our PMC or > any current ASF member to sponsor my membership., > Unfortunately I will probably not be able to attend > the next Foundation meeting, and so I'd also ask that > my sponsor act as my proxy, if possible. > > If I understand this process correctly, if I am > nominated, I fill out an application form and it's > discussed on the private "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing > list until a decision spits out. I guess I won't be > gaining any insight into the admission process at > first. :) > > - Morgan > > ===== > Morgan Delagrange > http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons > http://axion.tigris.org > http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
