+1 !

While at the moment I don't seek ASF membership, I think
it would be excelent if more jakarta commiters who 
are and have been active in this community send mail 
to the pmc and ask those who are members for nomination.

Costin

Morgan Delagrange wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> [from a previous thread on a previous list]
> 
>> Morgan Delagrange wrote:
>> 
>> > I don't know if I've yet achieved the status of a
>> > "long-term [committer] who have earned the right
>> to
>> > set Apache-wide policies" [...]
> 
> However, there's no time like the present to find out.
>  Roy Fielding has suggested that not enough Jakarta
> members seek membership in the ASF.  Until recently, I
> was quite happy plugging along in my little Jakarta
> world, developing software and trusting the Apache
> world to continue onward as it has.
> 
> However, recent events have shown me that my view may
> be too narrow.  One specific example (sorry if you
> subscribe to the reorg list, as this is repetition of
> threads there): a top-level Apache project with the
> same name and similar scope as a Jakarta subproject
> can be proposed, discussed and approved (including a
> PMC) without ever being mentioned on a list to which I
> can subscribe.  This week, a mailing list was formed
> to try to alleviate some of these communication
> deficiencies, but in the words of a former U.S.
> president, "trust, yet verify".
> 
> So my specific goal in seeking ASF membership is to
> look inside the black box.  I already know that
> important decisions can be made that are hidden from
> the view of most committers.  I'd like to know more
> about the process, and hopefully help to make these
> decisions more open and transparent to committers at
> large; at present a very small percentage of Jakarta
> members are actually ASF members.  Likewise, I
> encourage other Jakarta committers to consider seeking
> ASF membership if they are also concerned about
> representation and the decision-making process.  The
> Board seems very interested in increasing our numbers
> in the ASF membership, and I think we should take them
> up on this opportunity.
> 
> Specifically, I'd like to ask a member of our PMC or
> any current ASF member to sponsor my membership.,
> Unfortunately I will probably not be able to attend
> the next Foundation meeting, and so I'd also ask that
> my sponsor act as my proxy, if possible.
> 
> If I understand this process correctly, if I am
> nominated, I fill out an application form and it's
> discussed on the private "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing
> list until a decision spits out.  I guess I won't be
> gaining any insight into the admission process at
> first.  :)
> 
> - Morgan
> 
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