Geir,
I appreciate the intelligent response. I have a question though, what
happens when you pour your heart and soul into building a product, and make
it so user friendly that not many people need support? Now your product is
open source and everyone is getting it for free so nobody is buying you
'commercial' version and you can't sell enough support to earn a living?
one more question, is Redhat Linux Professional Server any different
from what you can download for free. If so how can they get away with that?
Aaron
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On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 07:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Micael,
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> I am sorry that you think of yourself as one to be believed as
> dim-witted, because I know that I never inferred anything of the sort.
> Do
> you have some issues you would like to talk about?. Isn't it ironic
> how
> everyone continues bash MicroSoft because they make such horrible
> products,
> yet everyone wanted the sourcecode released. If it is such garbage,
> why
> would anyone want it??? <clip> God, some people! <clip>
So we can fix them, or remove the parts that lead to vendor lock-in.
For example, I always wanted the source to VisualC++ so I could fix
their project file. Instead of some stupid proprietary binary that was
almost self-corrupting, I wanted to switch to a readable (fixable) text
format like XML.
Same with Excel - I used to do real-time financial market data stuff,
and we had such problems with Excel sometimes WRT real-time updates via
DDE. Now, I think Excel is one of their finest products (that and
Intellimouse...), but we had needs that the average user didn't, and
were happy to extend the thing if we could...
> As for my comments being worth the time saying, you and James did
> read
> them and feel a need to respond. So maybe they were worth it after all.
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> Aaron
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> micael
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> That is funny James. I really wonder if Aaron can truly believe we
> are so
> dim-witted or that anything he said was worth the time saying. God,
> some
> people! Micael
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> At 03:14 PM 12/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
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>>> the number 1 selling OS
>>
>> In case anyone hasn't seen this yet, I've attached the source code to
>> Windows 2000.
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>>> Ive been reading this thread and I think it is a bit humorous
>>> that some people think that companies that use the open
>>> source groupies to generate thier income are not just as
>>> minipulative as the proprietary ones. <clip>. M$ is not
>>> looking out for me, that I am sure about. <clip>. neither is
>>> Sun, nor Redhat, nor Debian,...
>>>
>>> I love open source and the idea of a bunch of people working
>>> together for a common goal, but I also think that if someone
>>> wants to make a living off of selling thier product, and not
>>> support, then they should be allowed to keep their code to
>>> themselves. Sometimes I wonder if Sun would whine about
>>> Microsoft as much as they do if Sun had the number 1 selling OS.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion, but I think it's a good one.
>>>
>>> Aaron Manns
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