I'm using the PERL one for several wikis including the TriJUG one (http://trijug.org)... It took 5 minutes to
set up and requires just rights to some place on the file system. So far no admin... http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/jugwiki.pl

I tested for dumb things like encoding file names to get it to write to other places...but its smart. (always writes the
encoded filename in the same place so for example /etc/passwd would result in something like
%xxetc%xxpasswd being in $DATADIR.. if its allowed as a wiki word at all)

The irony of the JUG wiki running on PERL wasn't lost on some. However since its running on my server,
being lightweight, easily set-up and 0 administration were my deal. Technical zealots be dammed.

-Andy

Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:

I haven't used JSPWiki, but I have used the Python-based MoinMoin and
really, really like it.

I just took a quick look at JSPWiki and I wouldn't be surprised if it's
feature set is based on MoinMoin (or vice-versa, it's always hard to tell).
It helps with discussions, and provides a temporary home for documentation
and such.

Part of the Tapestry/Jakarta proposal is a request for a Wiki. Tapestry has
gotten great mileage out of its Wiki, even those its the completely lame
PHPWiki (which can be hosted directly on SourceForge, the only reason to use
it).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Eade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: A Jakarta wiki?



About a month ago a discussion occurred over on turbine-user/dev about the
possibility of setting up a wiki to use for creating ad hoc documentation

as

well as a place to develop more formal documentation that might perhaps
later be converted to xdoc for direct inclusion in the actual project

site.

We discussed setting something up on a non-apache server, but thought we
would first seek an opinion as to whether or not an apache hosted solution
might be a possibility.

To this end, I posted a query to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (quoted below).
The brief discussion that ensued between Brian Behlendorf, Pier Fumagalli
and myself concluded that I was to liaise with Pier to set up a JSPWiki
instance on nagoya. I provided Pier with some information and asked him
what the next steps might be, but unfortunately Pier has become overloaded
with work and has been unable to get back to me (I'm not complaining

Pier -

all things take time and time is a limited resource).

Anyway, I have two motivations for mailing the general list:
1. To raise the profile of this request in hope of sparking some action.
2. To gain some feedback as to the desirability of widening the scope of

the

wiki beyond turbine. As mentioned below, Cocoon already have an external
(non-apache hosted) wiki. Leo Simons has also indicated that a similar
discussion has recently taken place over on the Avalon lists with the
conclusion being that they too would like to set up a wiki.

So how about some feedback:
1. Wiki's - love 'em or hate 'em?

2. JSPWiki - good choice or bad choice?

3. Scope of the wiki(s) - ((Turbine) and (Avalon)), Jakarta or Apache?

4. Hosting - apache.org or external

5. Timing - now, soon, later or never


Cheers,

Scott
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Scott Eade
Backstage Technologies Pty. Ltd.
http://www.backstagetech.com.au
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Scott Eade wrote:

On turbine-user & turbine-dev (jakarta) we have been discussing the
possibility of setting up a wiki to use for creating ad hoc

documentation as

well as a place to develop more formal documentation (perhaps we will
convert it to xdoc and make it part of the "real" docs once we are happy
with it).

To this end, we are wondering if it would be possible to establish a

wiki

somewhere on an apache server.

At this stage our desire is for a wiki that provides information about
turbine and its related projects (torque, fulcrum, etc.), but perhaps

the

entire jakarta or even apache community could benefit from the free flow

of

information that is facilitated by a wiki.

We are open minded about the wiki implementation to be used. There is a
maven plugin that provides quite a nice customisation of the UseMod

wiki. I

myself have used twiki and am fairly happy with it. Cocoon uses an
externally hosted JSPWiki which looks pretty good (being a Java person I
would probably have used this in preference to twiki had I found it
earlier).

Anyway, what are the chances of getting something set up on an apache
server?

What would I need to do to get something happening?

Thanks,

Scott


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